One of the lovely things abt Trump doing this BEFORE CONGRESS is it's an official speech, which has more legal salience than his bullshit oval office blather. - ThreadSky

emptywheel.bsky.social • 4 days ago

One of the lovely things abt Trump doing this BEFORE CONGRESS is it's an official speech, which has more legal salience than his bullshit oval office blather.

Reposted from Kyle Cheney

UPDATE: Another set of litigants has flagged Trump's remarks about Elon Musk in their lawsuit claiming Musk is wielding unconstitutional authority over the government. storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us...

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sirala6.bsky.social•4 days ago

He has trampled Congress; its autonomy is defunct. He must eliminate any judicial oversight to assume total control. Should a judge dissent, watch for their removal.

litscrib.bsky.social•4 days ago

We will see. I saw the way scotus looked or avoided looking at Trump last night. And again scotus upheld USAID pay to contractors. I don’t think it’s the slam dunk you think it is, for Trump. Will get worse for him as more of us rise up, and economy tanks

lidalou4.bsky.social•4 days ago

Hope you’re right, litscrib.

litscrib.bsky.social•4 days ago

Me too

theincitatus.bsky.social•4 days ago

Salience is one thing - admissibility is another.

I’d argue the residual hearsay exception personally, as the public records exception doesn’t seem to apply.

kankansi.bsky.social•4 days ago

So his “I know nothing about DOGE” comments don’t count?

starbucksjunkee.bsky.social•4 days ago

Trump's very good at the "blather!" 😉

shriketron.bsky.social•4 days ago

I wonder if they're going to spin even the SOTU is just a "show" and everything said is just "fluff" for that show.

That's calling out previous ones not inaccurately, and considering the many other unending lies of yesterday's SOTU …

notquietmodemd.bsky.social•4 days ago

Wow, that is non-obvious to non lawyers and highly relevant!!

kathyc2222.bsky.social•4 days ago

That's is what I am thinking also.....

hereticvirago.bsky.social•4 days ago

upwardfalling13.bsky.social•4 days ago

And it was in writing before the speech so he can’t claim he flub up.

altscience.bsky.social•4 days ago

And surely more than a tweet or Truth Social post.

rszasz.bsky.social•4 days ago

Was it? I thought it was a non-sotu sotu

jerald.bsky.social•4 days ago

A presidential address to a joint session of Congress by any other name would still stink as sweet.

markabuchanan.bsky.social•4 days ago

I believe that anyone who says Musk is the "head" of DOGE needs their head examined.

novahistorygrad.bsky.social•4 days ago

And he would have given copies of the speech to the Speaker right? So it couldn't even be viewed as an off the cuff remark if it was written ahead of time.

unicorncancer159.bsky.social•4 days ago

Judicial notice is a good thing.

artemisprime.bsky.social•4 days ago

Exactly. Hard to discount what he said when it’s not a tweet or off-the-cuff remark. These are clear, prepared remarks delivered in his official capacity in one of the most important speeches of his presidency.

jb3po.bsky.social•4 days ago

That was the specific thought I woke up to this morning 😂

mrxrules.bsky.social•4 days ago

I eagerly await the official court filing stating: No reasonable person would believe what President Trump says.

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