It’s easy to criticize vaccines when you’ve never had to bury a child lost to measles. It’s easy to push “immune-boosting smoothies” when you have clean water, plumbing, & sanitation. It’s easy to say “healthy food” is based on one food ingredient when you have access to fruits & vegetables. 1/ - ThreadSky

immunologic.org • 31 days ago

It’s easy to criticize vaccines when you’ve never had to bury a child lost to measles.

It’s easy to push “immune-boosting smoothies” when you have clean water, plumbing, & sanitation.

It’s easy to say “healthy food” is based on one food ingredient when you have access to fruits & vegetables.

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cps10001.bsky.social•31 days ago

ABSOLUTELY. Vaccination saves lives

mysteryshopper.bsky.social•31 days ago

What would be ideal would be a way to expose children to a very mild form of measles so that their immune system can learn how to fight it before a full blown version attacks your child.

That's how vaccines work. I know you know, but for anyone who doesn't, now you do!

crabby-phatty.bsky.social•31 days ago

Vaccines are made from killed or weakened viruses that cannot make you ill, but trigger an immune response.

What you're suggesting is not a good idea. What is "weak" to one child could kill another. Just like COVID-19.

mysteryshopper.bsky.social•31 days ago

From the CDC:

MMR is an attenuated (weakened) live virus vaccine. This means that after injection, the viruses cause a harmless infection.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/mmr/public/index.html

crabby-phatty.bsky.social•31 days ago

What you're recommending doesn't make any sense though. It's like you're suggesting we expose children to another child with a "mild" case and that's not how this all works.

mysteryshopper.bsky.social•31 days ago

Okay. So you don't think a "very mild form" is another way of saying "an attenuated form" that might be better understood by more people. Got it. Thanks for the illuminating chat.

crabby-phatty.bsky.social•31 days ago

I'm trying to talk you out of any notion of exposing children directly to another person whom you believe to have a mild case. This is why siblings can all have polio but only one is maimed for life. I sincerely want to know what your plan is here, exactly, if not a medically approved vaccine?

crabby-phatty.bsky.social•31 days ago

A mild case in one person isn't the same thing as an attenuated vaccine. Unless you're suggesting secret mass vaccination, I can't possibly fathom what else you mean by "mild case." A whole family can have the same tuberculosis but only one dies.

xiaotongyang.bsky.social•29 days ago

Exposing children to illness is risky, vaccines give choice to parents. I think polio should be manditory but the government shouldn't force injections. Choices must remain ours!

frinkdude.bsky.social•31 days ago

It feels like all of this is the result of anti-science rhetoric and the unchecked propagation of pseudo-science. People lack the skills/ability to understand extremely complex topics, so they resort to "folk wisdom", or pseudo-science "alternatives". I miss the days when scientists were respected

darkglade.bsky.social•31 days ago

That and the deliberate hobbling of education in the US which began in the Nixon/Reagan era, because an uninformed populous is easier to convince to vote against their own best interests

livelaughsob.bsky.social•31 days ago

Thank you!

immunologic.org•31 days ago

It’s easy to demonize organizations like the WHO when you’ve never depended on them to stop an epidemic from wiping out your community.

This is the wellness industry MO.

Read more in today’s newsletter (yes it’s 8:30 pm in Assam India now):

https://news.immunologic.org/p/the-trump-administration-just-walked

wearamask5.bsky.social•31 days ago

Sometimes I‘m wondering if we need to go back to the hard old days will all the diseases that were prevalent then in order for some folks to wake up.
From water- and foodborne illnesses to those horrible childhood diseases every parent was afraid of.

jenlyle.bsky.social•31 days ago

No - we don't. No one should ever lose a child to a preventable illness, full stop. We need to fight like hell against the tide of misinformation and fear. We need to fight like lives depend on it - because they do.

rsurg323.bsky.social•31 days ago

Unfortunately, I think we are on the precipice of that. Just so the rich can make more profits.

darkglade.bsky.social•31 days ago

I'd suggest what the US needs right now is a good old-fashioned Smallpox outbreak but I know they'd UTTERLY fail to prevent it leaking out of the country so the rest of the world would also be fucked.

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