“There is already a well known example of a President ignoring a Supreme Court decision on a major issue - Andrew Jackson on the finding that the forcible displacement of the Cherokee Nation and other Native Americans was unconstitutional. The Trail of Tears still happened.”
You are soooo right, as usual. Why isn’t this being done? I don’t get it. It seems like they’re all just rolling over and letting the traitors take over. I know it’s scary. I know it’s hard. But come on…it’s our democracy that’s at stake.
Courts are so far holding the line. Problem will happen when Donald orders federal enforcement to stand down & not enforce federal court orders. https://youtu.be/NUTXuTM8IoU
D.C. Circuit District Judge Ali just halted the administrations U.S. Aid freeze, required it to notify those impacted by the injunction, and gave it 5 days to prove compliance. From your bluesky to the judiciary ears 🙏
How about the court selecting independent monitors to observe and report on the compliance process? There are some former prosecutors and FBI agents looking for work.
Joe Biden was so demented he ordered the state department to purchase with YOUR money $400,000,000 worth of Tesla vehicles. But Rabid Rachel Maddow mendaciously reported it was President Trump. America is hoping Trump & Elon sues her & MSNBC's bankrupt asses! https://youtu.be/Lm91VRKB3bE?si=DY5crZORNprCeh97&t=145 SNL Concert
Data can be aggregated and transformed. It's not that easy.
Data leaked are equivalent to public data. You just cannot use them in contexts where you need legally reference to them.
But I think legality is not their main concern.
We know they have the data and the source code, we know they plan on keeping it, at the very least there should be a go straight to prison no questions asked penalty attached to being caught with it.
Rachel- we are not helpless. I have read a suggestion. The courts alone won’t save us. We must speak up loudly and clearly, with our ideas. The Dems should give Pete Buttigieg an office and small staff. Have him speak daily, the press will cover. Daily truth to daily lies. We must respond!
Let me get this straight. A government who allows unvetted, inexperienced non government entities into the heart of the government’s workings are going to tell the truth? A government that spews lies like a fire hose.
Eventually the SCOTUS will be the final arbiter, made up of many who lied to cong
Waste, fraud & abuse without proof. Help that make sense. I don’t understand why this wasn’t done at Government Accountability Office instead of compromising all these people lives
If we get through this - IF - exec orders are official acts and immune from prosecution. But ignoring court orders is not an official act. He should be made to account for lawless acts that clearly are not official. Trial, sentence and convict. As soon as he is out.
The Nazi judicial competence and procedure was established for the first time in a set of Directions (Richtlinien) decreed by Hitler in August, 1929. After 1933, the Führer ordered the present Chief Party Justice, Walter Buch, to change the USCHLA into a regular party judicial system.
@maddow.msnbc.com are you covering the NPS removal of all Transgender History at Stonewall? If not, please address this latest EO outrage. We need people to know about it and why We Shall Not Be Erased. Thank you!
Unfortunately, republicans seem to have adopted a “say what they want to hear and do what we please anyway” mentality, and I doubt any of them are worried about perjury given their “pardoner-in-chief.”
If you are bold enough and egotistical enough to knowingly and purposefully disregard the rules and laws why would you think they would do something a court tells them to do?
Yes!!! And, the degree to which this administration and Muskolini will obey court orders will depend on whether they see citizens continue to rise up and insist they do. It feels good to join a group & get active.
Any requirements such as what is being described here make sense in a just society, but we are dealing with Chump and his minions. They don’t care about the law. Chump can pardon anyone accused of violating the law on his behalf. Chump is immune from prosecution for official acts.
Yes they certainly would. Scanning physical correspondence, and "keeping" digitized records in their system are a matter of course for any organization. Or else they must justify the destruction of records. Their behavior is reminiscent of all those casino heist movies.
eliminating wasteful spending-can you report how much tax payer money trump has wasted so far-expensive aircraft to move a few illegals?salaries, benefits and who gets to drive the tesla's-his superbowl fiasco-all these photo ops to appease his ego-while measles break out, bird flu increases-
More than ever, Americans should:
Defy those who are trying to destroy your country.
Defend your institutions and democracy.
Depose those in power who don't care about you.
I agree with you 100%. I am not a lawyer, but I understand most of the laws. You go ahead and give your instructions. Maybe a dumb-fanfluken in the GOP club will learn something before they enter hell.
provide an audit trail of the changes made, addition to any software integrations added to the current stack. An access to the code repository they’re using for systems. They’re not completely burning down.
You need to start taking accountability yourself you claim a national television that Elon Musk is stealing money by getting a $400 million armored Tesla deal from the government when it was given to him by Biden and terminated by Trump. I can’t wait till you are sued for defamation of character.
🤦🏼♂️ don’t count on it. We live in an upside down double reversed Twilight Zone situation now. A Lawless Sociopathic Executive branch is destroying it all as fast as possible and 1/2 the populace
knows nothing about it, thinks everything is perfectly kosher.
Where's the "or else"?? I need to see the consequences for not complying. That's how they think - weighing the consequences of doing whatever they wish.
Those affected by any breach has standing and can join a class action lawsuit against Trump, Musk and DOGE. (Not an attorney...so wording might not be correct.)
Keep reporting, keep pressuring other media outlets to speak truth. We need you.
FYI I attended a rally in Montclair NJ that Rep Sherrill organized last Saturday. Packed room of angry, frightened, ready to act people. Shouting what can we do? Fight. Push back. Don't help Republicans pass bills
“Under penalty of perjury” means nothing to them. Every senator, congressman, president, and nominee in this administration has already committed perjury by swearing their oath of office and not upholding their oath or lying during confirmation hearings
Yes, and it was the spineless, white male privileged Republican Senators who approved their appointments. (List of Republicans who are up for Re-election in 2026 is on Gov website, as well as the Oath they took to defend the Constitution.) grrrrr
the DOJ has now locked the Adams prosecutors in a room and ordered at least one of them to sign the papers dismissing the charges against Adams. This would be a constitutional crisis if not for all the other constitutional crises now in progress
APTs take years performing reconnaissance to find a way in. These Doge kids are likely installing backdoors or other type of undetectable executable software to give another nation state (prob Russia) full access to the federal government. We’re being hacked in broad daylight at a very fast speed.
I agree but rationality is not on the Trump board game. Can you please talk about expulsion as a potential for the Senate complicit in refusing to budge on this coup?
Is there anyone or any organization(s) tallying how many programs have been affected by the funding freezes? I would love to have some concrete data to share with my Republican Representative. Same for civil service firings?
All true , but musk thinks threats are empty and until someone does something resembling forcing accountability,he’s right. It’s like orders are made and they just laugh and go on like “and what are you going to do to make me.” Everyone else stands there like “but he’s not following the rules whyyy”
I fear old Federalist 78 and its “neither the sword nor the purse” is going prove soon how deeply structural this problem is. They have been teeing this sort of showdown for awhile now. It’s hard to see this ending well with clearer directives from the courts when they ignore the plain text of 14A.
Should Americans be filing class action lawsuits over the data breaches that immigrant musk has taking place? If CFPB is among the firing squad agencies, who, then do Americans appeal to when they find their accounts wiped out & their breached data sold overseas? No end in sight unless courts act
I work with youth. And I've told worried youth that trump couldn't just go and change things unfairly, that there are processes in place to stop him from discriminating...and I was so wrong. He's doing whatever the hell an old felon and sex offender wants to do, in our oval office.
Sensitive information leaked? Whoops. Everyone gets new account info and SSN numbers. YOU get a new number, and YOU get one, and You and you and you… oh but not you. You’re trans, oh and you… you said something derogatory. Oh and you are brown…and you are poor. And oh how efficient we are!
Dark Gothic MAGA is in control. Trump is their pawn.
America needs to determine who is who. MAGA folks may be stupid but dark gothic MAGA is dangerous.
Black caps vs red caps
Let’s start honoring our civil servants like we did health care workers during the pandemic! Ring some bells/make some noise at 7 pm in your time zone!! Pass it on!!
The whole point is that Musk is doing a hostile takeover of our government. tRump is the useful idiot. He can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube once it’s out. Neither can he control DOGE once they’ve copied the date. He can’t dislodge them o nice inside. Courts rulings mean nothing to them.
Well, we can't even be sure if the doge kids are the only ones gained access of those data, since their own site's security measure was just a pile of garbage beside a dumpster fire.
Anyone who would hide documents by their toilet, doesn't care about them. He tells everyone they can't even take notes in meetings, NO PAPER TRIALS - they are on a trash and burn raid of our government!
How about some credibility by you and your network to report Musk is illegal and should be deported. That's the penalty he deserves for lying on his citizenship application, which he confirmed doing under oath in 2005.
The courts need independent Marshalls that can arrest anybody that does not comply. Trump must not be allowed not to comply by telling DOJ to tell Marshalls to ignore orders.
Trump cannot police himself! REPEAT
TRUMP WILL NOT POLICE HIMSELF!
He cannot be trusted. End TRUMP'S BULLSHIT NOW!
Hi Rachel, The reason Trump and his cronies want access to our data is to If someone getting social security and they was not born here Trump could target them personally. That includes other social programs and that's the Trump and Elon musk hidden agenda. Keep up the good work.
Has anyone considered what happens to the economy when the largest employer fires mass amounts of employees? Those cheering are in for very rude awakening! There is no plan to bring back any of these agencies=YOUR SERVICES ARE ON THE BLOCK TOO! We’ll see if you are laughing when reality hits…… SAD
You see, when you start makin’ everybody sign these legally binding declarations, swearin’ under penalty of perjury that they’ve destroyed all records, what you’re really doin’ is tightening the leash—and not just a little bit, nah, you’re cinchin’ it tight.
Now, let’s say you got a whistleblower, someone who’s sittin’ on some hot Treasury data—evidence of corruption, maybe somethin’ downright illegal. If they signed that declaration sayin’ they erased it all, but they kept a copy to expose the truth—boom.…
that don’t just stop leaks, that stops accountability. ‘Cause if nobody’s got the proof, then guess what? There ain’t no crime, there ain’t no scandal, there ain’t no story to tell.
Now, they’ll say it’s about security, about protectin’ sensitive systems—and maybe, just maybe,
What is actually being done to remove the DeFacto president and his team out? Lots of chest thumping but nothing substantial? WHY? Where is justice and the rule of law?
They can order all they want. But is there any reason to believe that the orders are carried out? I’m not sure I’d believe anything that Musk did or said.
Trump & his billionaire buddies are traitors to the country. What they’re doing is treason! Since they appointed so many Republican judges, money makes their court cases go away tho. There’s Always a Rep judge willing to do favors for cash, if they keep appealing,don’t take long to get one
Since history to supports the legal fact that only Congress can change federal department support (Nixon era), how is it we cannot stop Trump defunding until they bring it to the courts. All attacks should not be allowed until courts change it. He is allowed to keep doing this before the challenge.
"Armored Teslas*? For $400 M!?
Teslas have proved unreliable!
Of course now they've changed the name on the government web page, saying:
"Armored Electric Vehicles" !!!
I went to https://dogegov.com/ and I couldn't find any receipts that were shown by Levitt the day she was showing the press. Musk bragged about transparencies so where are the receipts and the backup documents so the American People can read them.
Baldy47 made MAGA afraid of the Lawless Cartel at the Mexican Border. Unfortunately, Monarchy And Gangsters Allowed into the Whitehouse. 'Snakeoil', Diaper Donald and his Criminal Cartel have taken control of 🇺🇲 and he'll extort the economic, lowest 90%. All of 🇺🇲 is trapped in an Isolationist Prison.
The actions taken by Trump as well as his minions is unlawful. Why are we waiting for some body to stop them, meanwhile they continue to dismantle and destroy? Why aren't there immediate halting of their violations of law and constitution? There are not adequate guard rails.
It's difficult to stop POTUS from undermining the integrity of the US Govt. With our legislative branch paralyzed, the judicial already in executive Trump's pocket, the stage is set for a bloodless coup. With little resistance b/c we're exhausted
Some of these are precisely the kind of things an oversight committee could be demanding via subpoena power but …. Republicans… are cowering in fear of King Frump.
Us federal annuitants have to wonder if all our data is lost. They will use that as an excuse to not pay us our retirement. I, for one, don't have the funds to hire a lawyer to fight them.
Can you PLEASE write an article on how @schumer.senate.gov should RESIGN vis a vis the #DNC in the senate posing no real resistance to these destructive nominations?
Sure they will vote against on the EGREGIOUS ones, but more than not they (about 19) vote YES with the fascist scumbags!!
In Maine farmers are finding they are not getting reimbursed for agricultural grants they had been awarded ( and money they have spent), and employees of small USDA offices are being fired with no notice today, even supervisors unaware.
ACTION NOW
TALK IS COSTING USA
How soon will these changes happen?
Where’s the traceable EVIDENCE -Proof that an “unvetted ” such as Musk can continue his unconstitutional, unconditional conundrum and cohesive chaos??
Why you so called journalist do not support AP?!
Journalists are responsible for Trump !You put the world in danger because you treat everything as entertainment. It’s almost like you want a WW3 just for ratings.
Journalists are a disgrace to the many courageous who have died on battlefield
In theory, accountability measures seem like a great idea. However, I don’t think this administration is going to be strong in this area. They all believe they can give a 🖕🏻 to checks and balances.
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Remember this all ends with pardons for everyone January 2029
Meanwhile they can get away with ANYTHING
All the court orders in the world aren't going to stop the data from ending up in the hands of foreign-powers or black-hat hackers, forever
either by "accident" or for profit
Data leaked are equivalent to public data. You just cannot use them in contexts where you need legally reference to them.
But I think legality is not their main concern.
You lost.
You earned this.
Stfu.
Stfd
Buckle up...
Enjoy the ride
Eventually the SCOTUS will be the final arbiter, made up of many who lied to cong
Clawback ?? :-)
You and the others keep legitimizing and normalizing the term which is NOT an actual department and the man is not the leader of it.
The more legitimate you make it the harder to prosecute him later.
It is illegal! ALL OF IT!
Defy those who are trying to destroy your country.
Defend your institutions and democracy.
Depose those in power who don't care about you.
https://dailycaller.com/2025/02/13/elon-musk-trump-state-department-armored-teslas-contract/
but here we are
knows nothing about it, thinks everything is perfectly kosher.
The orders will be good for future litigation
FYI I attended a rally in Montclair NJ that Rep Sherrill organized last Saturday. Packed room of angry, frightened, ready to act people. Shouting what can we do? Fight. Push back. Don't help Republicans pass bills
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We all assume that to be the good-faith default, and I'm not sure it is any longer the default, nor that they are acting in good-faith.
America needs to determine who is who. MAGA folks may be stupid but dark gothic MAGA is dangerous.
Black caps vs red caps
That infomation is copied, shared, and being dissected in some Moms basement by incels who need to buy sex robots.
Trump cannot police himself! REPEAT
TRUMP WILL NOT POLICE HIMSELF!
He cannot be trusted. End TRUMP'S BULLSHIT NOW!
And the real kicker? The part where they’re orderin’ folks to scrap any unauthorized records—well, buddy,
Now, they’ll say it’s about security, about protectin’ sensitive systems—and maybe, just maybe,
But you and I both know, sometimes the loudest voices about “security” are just makin’ sure the right people stay quiet.
So yeah, you slap a rule like this across the board, and what do you got?
And that, my friend? That’s what we call a chilling effect.
We need your show to help us through this crisis.
Teslas have proved unreliable!
Of course now they've changed the name on the government web page, saying:
"Armored Electric Vehicles" !!!
https://bsky.app/profile/purplett.bsky.social/post/3li5rev2l3226
It isn’t illegal but is recommended & respectful
The article, along with added extra links, is in this Bluesky thread. Tap above the 'article pic' and scroll ⏬
Roberts (majority) Court
Mitch McConnell
Joe and Jill Biden and Fox News
For this sorry s-t show
Sure they will vote against on the EGREGIOUS ones, but more than not they (about 19) vote YES with the fascist scumbags!!
TALK IS COSTING USA
How soon will these changes happen?
Where’s the traceable EVIDENCE -Proof that an “unvetted ” such as Musk can continue his unconstitutional, unconditional conundrum and cohesive chaos??
Journalists are responsible for Trump !You put the world in danger because you treat everything as entertainment. It’s almost like you want a WW3 just for ratings.
Journalists are a disgrace to the many courageous who have died on battlefield
“Republicans allowed that”