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maddow.msnbc.com • 5 days ago

"IRS officials who sign off on data sharing under these circumstances risk breaking the law..."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/irs-acting-commissioner-krause-resigning-immigrants-tax-data-ice-rcna200343

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jimmyallenboyle.bsky.social•5 days ago

MAGA CAVED! GOP LEADERS JUMPI SHIP! RESISTANCE WORKS and WE"RE WINNING! NEXT NATIONAL PROTEST IS APRIL 19th.

johnsonaz.bsky.social•5 days ago

Yea? So like the Devil would say, where we gonna' get our lawyers?

phoebe1313.bsky.social•5 days ago

🤬🤬

sallmandertwo.bsky.social•5 days ago

Yes! Taxpayer data would give him carte blanch to steal from individuals, corporations etc every one

sallmandertwo.bsky.social•5 days ago

That is why IRC 6103 is so strictly regulated for any and all data

billyb123.bsky.social•5 days ago

"Risk breaking the law" LOLOLOLOLOL They don't give a rats ass about the law. There is NO accountability. It's the wild west.

bigdaddylipscomb2.bsky.social•5 days ago

My thinking is, even if they're breaking the law, Trump will pardon them. Their problem is if we get a Dem President in 2029. All those people who broke the law need to be FIRED.

kmbates.bsky.social•4 days ago

I’d replace the word risk with “are”

wimvdputte.bsky.social•5 days ago

Just asking: if Republicans and Trump officials don't follow the law, why should Democrats follow the law? If Democrats only play by the law... they can impossible win against cheaters and lawless competitors.

kab-fair.bsky.social•5 days ago

they want their most recently reported addresses, places of employments and info about their families to facilitate ICE, this admin views every undocumented as a criminal & any citizen married to them as aiding & abetting, you can see why this data is so protected

sailaway25.bsky.social•5 days ago

Horrifying.

madcosta.bsky.social•5 days ago

Also, Employees at the IRS can be penalized for looking at someone else's tax information. I remember when some employees were checking out a famous singer's tax info...they got in trouble. It's a complete no no even for IRS employees.

madcosta.bsky.social•5 days ago

Did the Chief Counsel of IRS resign? You mentioned the lead Legal official. I used to work there and the Chief Counsel is separate from rest of IRS. They have their own HR office, etc.

lambo-goes-outside.bsky.social•5 days ago

Weird… they’ve been claiming for years that immigrants don’t pay taxes yet they want their data from (checks notes) the IRS?

susancragin.bsky.social•4 days ago

Market manipulation in teriff crash.

bowenfabrication.bsky.social•5 days ago

The ones leaving know this show is coming to an end eventually, and they don't want to be the ones in the "accused" section of the tribunal for facilitating crimes against humanity by the US Gestapo.

honumac.bsky.social•5 days ago

Def overreach

briansager.bsky.social•5 days ago

Trumpers don't care about the LAW.

majnunsca.bsky.social•4 days ago

What law? The ones they are ignoring? The ones the Supreme Court are letting them ignore? Or the ones Congress is rewriting to let them bypass it against the people's will? Until they turn us into a dictatorship with martial law in a couple weeks?

dianeleonas.bsky.social•5 days ago

How about a massive lawsuit against Trump and Musk for taking our private information and the plaintiffs being every person in this country whose info is in the IRS database!

cindyruiz10.bsky.social•5 days ago

Peaceful protest APRIL 19!
please repost

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world

bfgilme.bsky.social•5 days ago

The Privacy Act backed by the 4th A protects the private information provided to the IRS for the purpose of completing a transaction with the IRS. If any data gets used as part of an enforcement by the DHS will get kicked out of a hearing as a _criminal_ violation of the 4th A.

kateybee1.bsky.social•5 days ago

💯!!

cocainedecisions.bsky.social•4 days ago

If an immigrant is paying taxes, then the immigrant isn't an infiltrator but rather here working legally. America needs LEGAL immigration. Illegal infiltrators are a burden and need to be deported.

starmanjr.bsky.social•4 days ago

Undocumented immigrants pay taxes too.

cocainedecisions.bsky.social•4 days ago

Really? What percentage? Because what my lying eyes saw on YouTube was undocumented infiltrate living in hotels, getting welfare and free food. I also saw huge amounts of criminal activity, both in stores and on the streets. Again, what percentage? 15? 20?

starmanjr.bsky.social•4 days ago

All of them. You’re referring to new arrivals that are in the country on a legal basis (and received next to nothing, btw). We’re discussing the 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the country, the vast majority of which have been in the country over a decade.

cocainedecisions.bsky.social•4 days ago

The vast majority over the Biden administration

starmanjr.bsky.social•4 days ago

You’re welcome to provide a citation for that.

kjjames.bsky.social•5 days ago

Hero

margie1000.bsky.social•5 days ago

The law to them is something to break like toddlers in a glass house.

powerfromspace1.bsky.social•4 days ago

Good 👍🏾 hopefully there is some left to enforce it after #DOGE 😰

BTW - No way in hades the are stopping at just migrants / legal immigrants once they have that data.

It's still a bank robbery by f@scist grifters enabled by SCOTUS 🤷🏽

maiopine.bsky.social•5 days ago

Not much use if Trump will pardon anyone who illegally does his bidding. And Trump himself seems to have been given a pass at being above the law.

oranst.bsky.social•4 days ago

Is anyone paying much attention to law-breaking lately? It looks like more of a free-for-all, originating from the WH.

rodgilbert.bsky.social•5 days ago

Such a naive concept that the law is meaningful

elenacorinne.bsky.social•4 days ago

I thought the whole problem was that undocumented immigrants and asylum seekers didn’t pay taxes. But here is the ICE needing IRS to find these same immigrants.

Things that make you go “Hmm.”

bewildered37.bsky.social•5 days ago

USA’s current population is 346,790,860. 269,487,291 of these—77.71%—did not vote for Donald Trump. Of the 155,512,532 Americans who voted in the 2024 election,Trump won 77,303,569, a PLURALITY; the MAJORITY of voters—(78,208,963)—voted for other candidates. Trump’s current approval rating is 43%.

ljladu98.bsky.social•4 days ago

I hope so!

phillysage.bsky.social•5 days ago

They probably already did that's why they are resigning

daisyjingles.bsky.social•4 days ago

And who gon’ to check them, boo? Not the DOJ, not congressional republicans and prob not the Supreme Court. As for the next administration…who knows if they would ever get around to it, and by that time the damage will have been done (see DOJ vs Trump under Garland).

stevenilevey.bsky.social•4 days ago

They did. IRS employees are not allowed to share PII data to any who is not authorized

patricklovell13.bsky.social•5 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/patricklovell13.bsky.social/post/3lmfzi6yzks2q

katiewisniewski.bsky.social•3 days ago

PROTECTING the individual’s data from being harvested by “Elon/trump” adolescent hackers is following their oath of allegiance to the Constitution 🇨🇦💙🇺🇸☘️🇺🇦

shawneewildcat.bsky.social•5 days ago

And there WILL BE accountability. Lawsuits and hopefully jail.

plantingahead.bsky.social•5 days ago

Yet who holds them accountable? Judges? Then it’ll work its way to SCOTUS and be allowed.

jbvta.bsky.social•5 days ago

Not if the DOJ and Congress don’t care

canericanisms.bsky.social•5 days ago

So, the IRS was caught playing fetch for ICE, selling out vulnerable immigrants’ privacy for political gain, and the acting commissioner resigns instead of taking responsibility? Nice move—let’s just shuffle the blame while protecting the real culprits. A disgraceful betrayal of public trust.

suemomandgrandma.bsky.social•5 days ago

And someone else will just go in and do it.

sleeplessinamerica.bsky.social•5 days ago

The IRS has NOT done this yet. ICE has been trying to get this information for a couple of months, but the (career) IRS people keep saying it's illegal. That's why there have been so many resignations--they are fighting. The latest agreement was signed by Treasury Secretary Bessent, not the IRS.

todaymyeyesdied.bsky.social•4 days ago

There is no law any more

graceharris85.bsky.social•4 days ago

Came here to say the same. If only there actually were still laws in this country.

grths.bsky.social•5 days ago

amandaryd.bsky.social•5 days ago

I am looking forward to the plethora of prosecutions in the future

happilyblue1031.bsky.social•5 days ago

So they're not "undocumented?"

am-mccarthy.bsky.social•5 days ago

None of which will be enforced, until we get rid of this regime of fascists.

snooperprince.bsky.social•5 days ago

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTjJXsK45/

radbradley.bsky.social•5 days ago

Reminder: anyone who carries out an illegal order during this administration, no matter how low their job is on the totem pole, is breaking the law, and they will be prosecuted at some point in the future.

lachness47.bsky.social•5 days ago

I sure hope so. I have so little faith in anything anymore.

mangy-dog.bsky.social•5 days ago

They’re safe if Merrick Garland leads the investigation. 🫣

swmseattle.bsky.social•4 days ago

Yeah, but it’s federal law being broken and who is going to enforce it?

darladazzle.bsky.social•5 days ago

Who is in charge?

karentalbert.bsky.social•5 days ago

😡😡😡😡😡

workingdogs.bsky.social•5 days ago

The” little people“ will pay as he skips away. Someone will always be dumb enough to send money for his lawyers. And endless appeals.

mikeharris329.bsky.social•5 days ago

Good day to you Rachel you are simply the best

chunkyfluff.bsky.social•5 days ago

Wow this is just wow

professorfate1.bsky.social•3 days ago

I filed electronically in February, last year I received my refund electronically in about a week, but the DOGE geniuses reprogramming seems to have failed. I just received a paper check. Hey, just give them a scalpel and let them do surgery. They know about the human body. They almost have one.

marylouisepauline.bsky.social•4 days ago

My data is not to me released to DOGE OR ICE

sapphirebluesky-ps.bsky.social•5 days ago

Judges need to start holding administration officials accountable for their crimes and contempt of court.

proudstoic.bsky.social•4 days ago

What law? Congress is now a part of the Executive Branch. The Supreme Court is under the thumb of the Heritage Foundation, The Justice Dept. is acting as the Executive's secret police and enforcers. Right now the Constitution is not worth the paper it is written on. The oligarchs driving all this

proudstoic.bsky.social•4 days ago

believe the people are disfunctional and we prove them right every day. We sit here chasing what we see happening and not fighting what is really going on. Infact, most of the people don't even understand what is going on and those that do won't talk about it because it is "Politically Incorrect".

proudstoic.bsky.social•4 days ago

Aristotle thoughly understood what is happening today 2400 years ago. What our founding fathers envisioned is almost gone and I see no way to stop it. We have no plan on how to tear down what the new America will soon be and an organized army to rebuild it as a better version of the original idea.

proudstoic.bsky.social•4 days ago

Those behind, what we mistakenly call the Far Right Movement, have been planning and implementing this for 50 years. They have been learning from their mistakes and now have a well organized and funded army of followers ready to carry it out. Like a fixer upper they have been slowly tearing our

proudstoic.bsky.social•4 days ago

house apart and they are now in the process of remodeling it. We need a written plan, strong carismatic leaders that are not afraid to buck authority, and an informed, organized, and well funded army. The future of generations to come depend on it. I am old and have little stake in what is to come.

proudstoic.bsky.social•4 days ago

My contribution is I figured out what they are doing and it greatly saddens me.

toodead2care.bsky.social•5 days ago

Pardon me?

informedobserver.bsky.social•5 days ago

Undocumented immigrants pay more than 96 billion dollars in taxes per year.
https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/

iavswn.bsky.social•5 days ago

He should be in jail!!

navyfungi.bsky.social•5 days ago

Appears that there ARE some smarter people in the administration who understand that after the midterms their asses will be at risk for what they do now.

amy-murphy.bsky.social•4 days ago

Please note the “tax paying immigrants “

joshsyrop.bsky.social•4 days ago

Thank you Rachel for saying what so many reporters are failing to say, that what Trump is ordering is illegal, that he won’t be President forever, and even if he won’t prosecute these people, someone else eventually will.

silencedogood2.bsky.social•4 days ago

RM👏TY “The law requires the IRS to protect your information, and you do not need to take any action or make a special request for us to protect your confidentiality. The IRS may not disclose tax returns or return information unless authorized by law.”

IRS Privacy Policy

https://www.irs.gov/privacy-disclosure/irs-privacy-policy

ta1943.bsky.social•4 days ago

Your nailing Rachel, and we appreciate it, just wish we had the power to stop it😒

karlcramer.bsky.social•5 days ago

#impeachtrump

khazhadar.bsky.social•4 days ago

🖕🏼🍊

vigeo93.bsky.social•5 days ago

So who will be arrested over this?

fairydogmutter.bsky.social•5 days ago

Exactly. Everything illegal that this administration is doing is done by individuals making choices. Some of these individuals surely belong in jail.

whendogsfly.bsky.social•4 days ago

Just drove through Salinas, CA. Should be major Romain harvest. Fields of mature plants. Not one worker for miles. Many fields plowed under. Usually making this drive, there are hundreds of workers bent over in any conditions laboring to harvest the food we all enjoy. Heartbreaking.

furgiuele.bsky.social•5 days ago

Law? I think SCOTUS discontinued that stuff.

minnow5000.bsky.social•5 days ago

(I don’t think it’s immigrants’ data they want - they want yours and mine.)

wipjenni.bsky.social•5 days ago

They may as well break it. I'm sure they can withstand the assertive finger wagging punishment.

margot44.bsky.social•4 days ago

What law? Are there any laws left that are enforced??

cjmmusic1.bsky.social•5 days ago

vlp228.bsky.social•4 days ago

We are living without laws, for this administration. God help us!!

rankingfullstop.bsky.social•4 days ago

I recall reading a legal interpretation long, long ago whereby if the IRS breeches the privacy of a tax payer it forfeits its right to collect any taxes they owe. If that is correct, this would be very expensive for the IRS.

denisehkg.bsky.social•5 days ago

I thought "criminal illegal immigrants" didnt pay taxes?
Have I been....lied to? /s

portlandrose.bsky.social•5 days ago

with all these resignations how are they going to finish that audit of Trump’s?

stephenburks1.bsky.social•5 days ago

For us to lose our country, it takes the complicity of our friends, neighbors and relatives who just “follow orders” from tyrants and their sycophants so they can keep the jobs that feed their families. Let’s figure out how to help them resist before it’s too late.

graphmangraphics.com•5 days ago

They are just "Following Orders"

comen-tator.bsky.social•5 days ago

According to law and regulations (assuming they haven't been changed recently), allowing unauthorized persons to get access to that data is a crime punishable by incarceration and hefty fines!

There was not provision for anyone, not even the Secretary, to be able to override those rules!

kassandrasays.bsky.social•5 days ago

I despise these lawless and inhumane beings with every fiber of my being. 🤬 I believe hell has a special place waiting just for them.

helenofeurope.bsky.social•4 days ago

Schrodinger's immigrant: simultaneously paying taxes and not paying taxes at the same time....🤔
These MAGA fascists are scum.

democrataz.bsky.social•5 days ago

And so more court cases that won’t get adjudicated until well after the illegal data sharing is done.

workingdogs.bsky.social•5 days ago

Kind of makes identity theft insurance moot.

democrataz.bsky.social•5 days ago

Yep. That’s the big benefit of crypto. Money laundering isn’t traceable.

workingdogs.bsky.social•5 days ago

No. Blockchain is transparent but our government can trace the money and Myanmar has conducted raids. The Economist has a series called Scam Inc. You have to subscribe but they offer a free trial period. I won’t invest in crypto. “It’s a disaster waiting to happen”. Donald Trump said it.

democrataz.bsky.social•4 days ago

But don’t you have to have the keys to get into it? It can be used to launder money in a trade then quickly converted to a real currency. How is that traceable?

workingdogs.bsky.social•4 days ago

According to the Economist it’s possible but it takes persistence and expertise. Our DOJ under Biden I think shut down catfish scams. In this administration that will not happen. Blockchain is transparent in that you can see which digital wallet it went to. After that the fun begins.

democrataz.bsky.social•5 days ago

I’ll look at it. Thanks.

heartattack101.bsky.social•5 days ago

#BlueSky going to be off the #CHARTS come next #ELECTION DAY.

LONG AS #RACHEL #MADDOW KEEP KEEPING US IN THE KNOW.

Way to Rachel we Appreciate You & we #love you 👍🏾😁👍🏻 #Queen of the 📰 #NEWS👸🏻🙏🏼🌹🫶🏻✌🏼

1inspired.bsky.social•5 days ago

What law? Trump is the most lawless person alive.
Trump thinks illegal is just a sick bird.

belgram.bsky.social•5 days ago

Yes. But will anyone who can stop it care?

steeleleets.bsky.social•4 days ago

https://youtu.be/SwJu7toxzKg?si=tsFjyQckjAnLFKis

mouse63.bsky.social•5 days ago

Like they even care.

sleeplessinamerica.bsky.social•5 days ago

Thank you, Rachel, for covering this issue tonight. As usual, you did a great job of covering the issue and the history of the legal protection for taxpayer information. I really appreciated hearing Nina Olsen on this.

lashon4u.bsky.social•4 days ago

But Rachel who's going to arrest them

yourdr.bsky.social•5 days ago

Rachel!

Let's help the Democrats brand, the White House and Cabinet

🚨🚨🚨 The TRUMP'S HORR8R SHOW

Let all say over and over again

margiem.bsky.social•4 days ago

It’s Thursday & Trump & his phone line don’t work much. But you can leave a message Tues-Thurs 11-3. 202.456.1111

Every day call your reps and
Mike Johnson (202) 225-2777
John Thune (202) 224-2321
Chuck Schumer (202) 224-6542
Hakeem Jefferies (202) 225-5936

Call for impeachment/treason charges

neissy54.bsky.social•4 days ago

Thank you , Senator Baker and all Democrats. We must remain strong United States. Stay strong and united we are United States of America. Trespassers are invaders removing our independence. This our home prayers up for USA.We stand strong Trump trying to remove judges enforcing our laws.

neissy54.bsky.social•4 days ago

Seem like Crisis continues as long as Trump in office. Now Kimball Musk àdvise Donald Trump. Republicans are very aware of Crisis fail to listen to Democrats whom are fighting hard to protect Americans. Americans should stay strong United with Democrats.Republicans don't care.trump crimes real

pleasereadthis.bsky.social•1 day ago

People in these positions need to hold their ground and refuse to do these illegal actions, not resign so they don't have to. Bully tactics are working when this happens, and we all lose.

sydney007.bsky.social•5 days ago

#taxstrike time

liar-in-chief.bsky.social•5 days ago

https://youtu.be/hPhLFwPnnmM?si=oLN8Fx0j6IIXj_SP

ladyklc-garb.bsky.social•5 days ago

Great show tonight, Rachel.

tom-from-mpls.bsky.social•5 days ago

breaking what law? Who's going to prosecute? the ICC?

millie29.bsky.social•5 days ago

If immigrants are such leeches and are a tax burden, why does the IRS know who they are 😂

kateybee1.bsky.social•5 days ago

This is some next level CRAZY. Clearly violates privacy rights and ummm yeah the most "dangerous criminals" are for sure the ones paying their freaking taxes. 🙄What a load of utter crap. This has to be legally challenged, NOW.

misformyley.bsky.social•5 days ago

They are human trafficking people. These are not deportations. They are done without due process which is illegal. Trafficking is moving people across state lines illegally. They are trafficking people into torture prisons/concentration camps. Call it what it is. Change their narrative.

workingdogs.bsky.social•5 days ago

They loop back to the hardened criminal justification. There must be some debate technique to break through this lie.

zabroglexis.bsky.social•4 days ago

The debate technique is knowing that over 75% of those sent to El Salvador have no criminal history.

workingdogs.bsky.social•4 days ago

I wish facts mattered. In their cult all facts from outside are fake and rigged and they only listen to the dear leader. Reporting shows 12 of all 238 are gang members. He’s been saying fake news since he started. My dad won’t believe facts bc msm gets it wrong and Fix is right. Period. 🤷

cassandrusb.bsky.social•5 days ago

You cannot debate with someone who is not willing to move their position, and the right has learned that they simply have to repeat the lie one more time than we can speak the truth. The institutions of representational government have broken down.

workingdogs.bsky.social•4 days ago

I agree. We’re fighting emotions with facts. It’s why it won’t work. Pearl Harbor was the shock that destroyed Hitler’s scheme to keep our army here. Barring that trying to substitute the stream of propaganda for an unbiased narrative is another way A film called My Brainwashed Dad worth seeing.

misformyley.bsky.social•5 days ago

True… and it doesn’t matter that many of them have clean records. Facts don’t matter. So how do we break through?

workingdogs.bsky.social•5 days ago

I can research and see if there are any good books on this. Mehdi Hassan wrote How to Win Every Argument. ( nothing is 100%). I think I’ll order it. Or see if it’s in your local library. Interlibrary loans are free.

kewtiebird.bsky.social•5 days ago

Another way to go after legal immigrants, as per an email I got today:

“Today US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) will begin considering aliens’ antisemitic activity on social media and the physical harassment of Jewish individuals as grounds for denying immigration benefit requests”

sleeplessinamerica.bsky.social•5 days ago

1) Antisemitism is repugnant, but expressing it falls under the First Amendment.
2) Even if it was somehow Constitutional to do this, do we trust this group to define what is antisemitic? If I criticize Netanyahu, am I antisemitic? What if I was walking near a protest in support of Gazans?

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