Fresh off claiming Trump’s bullshit “war” allows them to ignore habeas corpus, snatch people off the street, and ship them to a foreign gulag without due process, they’re now claiming it also allows them to ignore the Fourth Amendment. www.nytimes.com/2025/03/20/u... - ThreadSky

radleybalko.bsky.social • 72 days ago

Fresh off claiming Trump’s bullshit “war” allows them to ignore habeas corpus, snatch people off the street, and ship them to a foreign gulag without due process, they’re now claiming it also allows them to ignore the Fourth Amendment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/20/us/politics/trump-alien-enemies-immigration-agents.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=p&pvid=C23D82BE-021D-45FE-BF53-2E269C7405D4

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gdeweese.bsky.social•71 days ago

Wish the article was more clear about the nature of this determination. It it an OLC opinion? Or something from the WH counsel? Or DoD? DHS? Who made this determination and why is pretty important context. Regardless, it's chilling it's been made at all.

darby70.bsky.social•72 days ago

I hope someone is tracking these brown shirts identities. As in the Nuremberg trials "Just following orders" is not a viable defense.

jeffr23.bsky.social•72 days ago

When they argue that the Alien Enemies Act allows this they are argueing that it is facially unconstitutional.

timsings.bsky.social•72 days ago

Not. cool.

somebitterdude.bsky.social•71 days ago

They don’t actually “believe” this bullshit. They think they can assert this interpretation to violate our rights. Stop fucking framing fascism this way @nytimes.com

drakesadron.bsky.social•72 days ago

Radley everyone knows you look the other way on numerous, numerous illegal alien crimes and you don't care about any of the victims or their families.
you're the one full of bullshit before anything else gets considered.

sisterunity.bsky.social•72 days ago

Nope. It doesn't. & if they force entry without a warrant, don't citizens have the right to defend their homes? Does this become a 2A thing?

flypusher713.bsky.social•72 days ago

If you’re in a Castle Doctrine law state, you absolutely can shoot someone who breaks into your house. If they don’t have a warrant and do a no-knock raid, you wouldn’t find a jury in a place like TX that would convict.

alexg3.bsky.social•72 days ago

Another amendment addresses this issue.

gigi138.bsky.social•72 days ago

Going full gestapo. Don’t worry the cultists will justify this bullshit.

katiewisniewski.bsky.social•71 days ago

Trump making people “disappear “ to a foreign prison is the most frightening and frustrating thing Elon/trump has done so far! Judges must stop this now and forever 🇺🇸🍀🇨🇦🇺🇦💙

seanmillerpdx.bsky.social•72 days ago

And you all said that Portland was crazy when the Feds did this in the summer of 2020. Was nothing more than a precursor to today.
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-use-unmarked-vehicles-to-grab-protesters-in-portland

jimbpa.bsky.social•72 days ago

Seriously, What The Actual Fuck is going on and Who The Fuck do these people think they are and Where The Fuck do they think they are?

songexplorer.bsky.social•72 days ago

Curious how “MAGA patriots” feel about all this government overreach? They sure had a problem about the potential before. Now, under their boys watch, it’s coming true.

loveandbekind.bsky.social•72 days ago

To Law Enforcement officers, including our Military, why risk your life committing illegal acts on behalf of Trump, you will get injured or killed for Trump and his enablers who don’t give a damn about you. Our country is in jeopardy and needs your help, it’s time to stand for Americas Future🙏

bretboyce.bsky.social•72 days ago

El Salvador’s CECOT prison is perhaps worse than the Soviet Gulag. As T. Snyder has written, “a very large majority of people who entered the Gulag left alive." In contrast, the BBC reported that “El Salvador’s authorities have stated that they do not expect Cecot’s prisoners to ever be released.”

quirkyhndl.bsky.social•72 days ago

We have the rights we insist upon and ONLY the rights we insist upon.

joule727.bsky.social•72 days ago

So we can assume they will ignore the 4th, along with the 1st and any other part of our Constitution that gets in their way.

malinois4me.bsky.social•72 days ago

Sure it does. Once they eviscerated the Constitution, it necessarily gutted all amendments.

chilangolandia.bsky.social•72 days ago

This is an alarming headline. Can someone share the article so that those w/out a subscription can read it? It’d be greatly appreciated.

argle-bargler.bsky.social•72 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/milwaukeeclintonv.bsky.social/post/3lktfgzrkik2z

chilangolandia.bsky.social•72 days ago

Thank you!

lostcausenation.bsky.social•72 days ago

This isn't an administration: This is a regime.

infinitelyloopy.bsky.social•72 days ago

In for a penny, in for a pound

toddadam.bsky.social•72 days ago

wallaby67.bsky.social•72 days ago

If it's a war why doesn't he start a draft? Military is woefully understaffed.

corpsman.bsky.social•72 days ago

Best not be coming to my hood.

ironfrontcharlie.bsky.social•72 days ago

Try that shit in Texas. They will need to send refrigerated 18 wheelers to pick up their "agents".

asherlangton.bsky.social•72 days ago

I’ll believe that when I see it.

debtandtaxes.bsky.social•72 days ago

All those Uvalde cops are still walking around.

asherlangton.bsky.social•72 days ago

Best case scenario when shooting it out with the feds is a posthumous exoneration.

debtandtaxes.bsky.social•72 days ago

On that note, I wonder how many cops are excited about the prospect of acting on ignoring the 4th amendment (on an even more widespread and liberal basis). Collecting one's pension seems preferable to all the potential mishaps of just breaking into peoples' houses.

ironfrontcharlie.bsky.social•72 days ago

What's the bad news?

asherlangton.bsky.social•72 days ago

Being dead.

ironfrontcharlie.bsky.social•72 days ago

Uvalde is not Houston.

hazelcakes.bsky.social•71 days ago

all hat, no cattle

if texas was going to do something it would’ve been done already

ironfrontcharlie.bsky.social•71 days ago

michellefleurelle.bsky.social•72 days ago

Please let everyone in Texas know that they’re coming for your guns. Isn’t this the type of tyranny that all the militias were training to fight against?

mkwilson27.bsky.social•72 days ago

The tyrants are right-wing. 🤷‍♂️

technicalsquirrel.bsky.social•72 days ago

No, they were specifically preparing for a browner shade of tyranny. They're fine with the orange kind.

ironfrontcharlie.bsky.social•72 days ago

Mobilizations are happening.

introvertedcatlady.bsky.social•72 days ago

Dictators very often don't like "the people" to have guns available to them because they know their way of ruling will cause rise ups and they don't want the people to have weapons to defend themselves or to go after the government. If they do allow people to have guns, they are highly regulated.

teekay.info•72 days ago

In Belarus they removed axes from hardware stores and fireworks from retailers during protests in 2020. Guns would be only the start.

introvertedcatlady.bsky.social•71 days ago

Oh wow! I didn't know that! Makes sense. And yes, guns are only one of many types of weapons 😕

specialzero.bsky.social•72 days ago

They're OK with it as long as it's an Other that's being violated by the Emperor.

michellefleurelle.bsky.social•72 days ago

It never remains “the other.”

specialzero.bsky.social•72 days ago

that's a lesson that never sinks in for the illiterati across every generation.

pershing48.bsky.social•72 days ago

Wow check out the tough guy here.

kolczyn.ski•72 days ago

If they're able to break the 4th, why would that prevent them from locking you up if you shoot them?

ironfrontcharlie.bsky.social•72 days ago

People I know arent too worried about being locked up. The page will turn and if they dont execute us we will see the sun again.

cyberfuturist.bsky.social•72 days ago

Death makes a man think twice about his actions

ironfrontcharlie.bsky.social•72 days ago

"A coward dies a thousand deaths, a soldier dies but once"

mamanunn.bsky.social•72 days ago

Just a bully upping his tactics

phranklindb.bsky.social•71 days ago

Round them up! What worked for the Jews, will work for the Immigrants.
By the playbook ~
Can't hide,.they'll search homes, attics, basements, barns, cellars, businesses & anyone found hiding them will be arrested, so turn on your immigrant friends & tell us where they are.
Sound familiar?

goofyindependent.bsky.social•72 days ago

Sound familiar? “The Gestapo, officially the Geheime Staatspolizei, operated largely outside the bounds of the law, with a basic law passed in 1936 granting them broad powers and exempting them from judicial review, effectively placing them above the law.”