Emotional state of affairs: Trumpists - reckless glee Democrats - disorientation West Europeans - indignation, concern, denial East Europeans - fear, resolve - ThreadSky

vladvexler.bsky.social • 55 days ago

Emotional state of affairs:
Trumpists - reckless glee
Democrats - disorientation
West Europeans - indignation, concern, denial
East Europeans - fear, resolve

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patrod24.bsky.social•54 days ago

Occasional Democrats and independents, moving to enraged resolve with a splash of vengefulness...(Watch town hall).

gantamk.bsky.social•55 days ago

This is succinct.

I once admired the West for illuminating the world. Now, it crumbles before my eyes. I fear for the generations to come -- including my son's.

tahirih.bsky.social•54 days ago

Canadians - WTF dudes

figgypud.bsky.social•54 days ago

All the little nasty compromises made over time bought us here. And in this Post-pandemic era, where existential fear/denial is driving decision-making, there's no-one around to press the reset button. Until something bigger and nastier comes along that is.

sepperlot.bsky.social•55 days ago

Us Cold War veterans are keeping their heads cool. Dig in and stop the expansion of evil in the world. There is resolve to be found in West Europe as well

vlaxaki.bsky.social•55 days ago

A good part of East European citizen is more similar to the average Alabamian, their greatest concern is still the woke agenda and the "elites" that want to make them gay so I think the "fear" element is a bit more complicated.

karel.online•55 days ago

As someone who can legitimately identify with what you call East European, let me point out that you misunderstand. Woke means broader awareness of social inequalities. Which is something that Eastern Europeans have historically experienced intensely and are much better prepared to defend against.

vlaxaki.bsky.social•55 days ago

It doesn't matter what woke really means, what it matters is what it means in the collective mind. The rise of Orban, Georgescu, Fico, Greek and Bulgarian far right etc all fish in the basin of the marginalized rural and working class, ask them about "woke".

karel.online•55 days ago

Again, on the contrary - it absolutely matters what the words mean - precisely so that they don't start to mean something else in the collective mind. And what arises is the pathology of fascism and it is happening everywhere - what the names of the aspiring fascists are is irrelevant.

vlaxaki.bsky.social•55 days ago

There's no reason for me to insist, I seriously hope you are right.

karel.online•55 days ago

I apologize for my hypersensitivity. It's because it always starts with not insisting on the meaning of words. This is exactly what Putin, Musk, Vance, and Trump do, because it just works. Let me offer you a short explanation straight from the source:

m100t.bsky.social•54 days ago

At least in Poland, the rural class does not much care about the 'woke'. Their issues are different - the right-wing is perceived as caring about them (in contrast to the smug metropolitans from Warsaw), as well as a "less corrupt" side and one that cares more about the national interest.

m100t.bsky.social•54 days ago

In general, I'd say the largest problem is the perception of the right as more patriotic. As well as all the years of corruption and incompetency from the PO which completely ruined the centrists' image (reprivatisation fiascos, numerous scandals etc)

m100t.bsky.social•54 days ago

Even now, the PO is losing support because of their utterly idiotic handling of internal issues and complete failure at delivering what they promised.

indraindra.bsky.social•55 days ago

Not at all. Are there those voices? Yes. Are they more loud or more widespread than in western Europe? Probably no. And then additionally the understanding of how critical the moment is is very clear within the majority of the population. And it outweighs everything else.

vlaxaki.bsky.social•55 days ago

I really hope you're right. Maybe my pessimism peaked lately.

vlaxaki.bsky.social•55 days ago

I just have the feeling that the situation is very similar to the US. We expect for the forces that defend the current status quo to defend us against the reactionaries while a great part of the civil society that defend the genuine universal values are eager for a change.

baltusv.bsky.social•55 days ago

Australians: slightly nervous introspection with the occasional side-eye towards the layers and layers of dependencies. Denial.

kollner.bsky.social•54 days ago

russians - genocidal euphoria 🤮

harmless-de.bsky.social•55 days ago

Personally: indignation and resolve

vonkracht.ch•55 days ago

Switzerland: Anything going on, over there?

richardgoth.bsky.social•55 days ago

Democrats need to start building bridges with the few republicans who are still speaking out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sTQ_J-Vvwo

karlispots.bsky.social•55 days ago

not sure about fear, rather - irritation at all of the above...

niclasostlund.bsky.social•55 days ago

Sums it up very well!

lee007.bsky.social•55 days ago

It seem that the US is trying to divide a conquer Europe, Brexit obliged early on. Now the US is pushing the AFD. Is this the aim

silkskinpaws.bsky.social•55 days ago

Agree, but you forgot to add cowardice to the West Europeans.
Most want to stay under Trumps radar and hope for the best but now is the time to stand up and be counted.

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