The news on the Youth Mobility Scheme is fantastic to see. It now feels like we could get some real momentum underway in the lead-up to the May summit. - ThreadSky

mikegalsworthy.bsky.social • 1 day ago

The news on the Youth Mobility Scheme is fantastic to see.

It now feels like we could get some real momentum underway in the lead-up to the May summit.

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loscozzese.bsky.social•1 day ago

I'd say it's a pretty dismal gain considering all that has been lost through Brexit

gylesnamopaleen.bsky.social•1 day ago

no it's not Mike. it's only for posh kids.

The "brexit reset talks" Starmer keeps banging on about should really be happening with the english public.

He rejected an excellent youth mobility scheme, a few weeks ago, because he was "afraid it would be seen as FoM"!

martandelus.bsky.social•1 day ago

I hope this goes well, it could be transformational for the UK's overall fortunes in the present environment. It'll be great for the youngsters too and open a lot of doors that the Tories shut with their dumbass Brexit.

voxterrier.bsky.social•1 day ago

Spoke to a young lad whose mother cried after the referendum, 2 years later, and working part time at the local Co-Op before college, he realised why. It was what she knew he'd be missing.

martandelus.bsky.social•1 day ago

It's been devastating, there used to be more school trips and all sorts. It was vital too, when kids are given the chances to sightsee it gets their imaginations going and inspires them. Stifling those precious energies will have crushed their dreams. It's morally reprehensible.

martandelus.bsky.social•1 day ago

Actually, i see the allure of Farage and the destruction of what was a wonderful thing, freedom of movement, as a huge part of the puzzle. Ofcourse, our politicians miss this by a country mile every single time though. Which is annoying as hell.

martandelus.bsky.social•1 day ago

Y'know, it's like that youth vote that Reform are courting is down to social conditioning bought about by Brexit and the void was filled with insular fake masculinity and the sort. Essentially, it's grooming. Especially egregious when we look at what is happening under the waves.

skykiss.bsky.social•1 day ago

As an 😫 American, knowing only a little about the EU and the EU/UK alliance, I was stunned by the campaigns and, then the Brexit. 😢

I do hope a way forward can be forged - for a more prosperous Europe.

martandelus.bsky.social•1 day ago

I'm quite sure that the spellweaving cast by the Brexit cult can and will be broken. Even a mass psychosis must have an point when it ends.

It's the best of both worlds in the end to ally ourselves with the EU.

httcs.online•1 day ago

I want full rejoin and an EU Army.

martandelus.bsky.social•1 day ago

I think it has to be the only way to stave off further conflict. More of a necessity than a desire, but i would also agree, pooling resources splits the load.

andrewwhiteley.bsky.social•1 day ago

2300.bsky.social•1 day ago

People should stop moaning & making assumptions & just accept that this is a good move forward.

viviennesoton.bsky.social•1 day ago

So far I’ve only seen it in the East Anglian Bylines, and reposted by you.
Is it reported anywhere else?

mikeiona.bsky.social•1 day ago

I think it's a tiny & pointless gesture.
How about a Confirmatory Referendum instead.
Now that the electorate knows what Brexit is like.
Now that the Brexiters' lies are exposed?

avazig.bsky.social•1 day ago

There is no joining until it's a settled matter and the Tories are against being in the EU. Since they rule 70% of the time... that's that

alecjburrett.bsky.social•1 day ago

Of course, if Fred Westminster elections were changed to use some form of proportional representation the Tories would be frozen out of power until they behave.

barryjames.bsky.social•1 day ago

PR would give der fuerage more seats than he deserves

alecjburrett.bsky.social•1 day ago

And he wouldn't be able to do anything with it. PR is no more a route to power for him than FPTP.

avazig.bsky.social•1 day ago

He could win with 30% of the vote share under FPTP. That's scary.

mikeiona.bsky.social•1 day ago

Wouldn't it give him precisely what he deserves?
Isn't that the whole point of proportional representation?
I mean: I find Farage loathsome, but I won't deny representation to those foolish enough to vote for him.

avazig.bsky.social•1 day ago

This is why PR should mean Proportional Representation and Press Reform. The right wing media props up Farage.

avazig.bsky.social•1 day ago

So? Do you believe in democracy or not?

barryjames.bsky.social•1 day ago

Democracy would have people supporting onward mosely

mikeiona.bsky.social•1 day ago

Yes.
This.
Westminster doesn't seem to like demi racy, do they?

alecjburrett.bsky.social•1 day ago

Not in it's current form.

avazig.bsky.social•1 day ago

That's exactly it. Electoral reform solves some very serious fundamental issues. But, compromise is a dirty word in the UK and Labour is addicted to the elective dictatorship.

alecjburrett.bsky.social•1 day ago

Labour know FPTP is bad, they just argue amongst themselves on what should be done about it. In the meantime nothing is done about it.

alexferrie.bsky.social•9 hours ago

They would rather except absolute power occasionally than do anything to grant a more representative electoral process. Another one of Starmers promises that's been broken

mikeiona.bsky.social•1 day ago

No.
That isn't that.
Otherwise the 1975 referendum would've made it a "settled matter", wouldn't it.

jumpers4goalposts1.bsky.social•1 day ago

Historically maybe, but they aren’t the tories anymore - they are closer aligned to NF who have never ruled.

avazig.bsky.social•1 day ago

They're still the official opposition

jumpers4goalposts1.bsky.social•1 day ago

Only in name, have you seen Badenough in action at PMQ’s? She’s so hopeless it’s actually funny

avazig.bsky.social•1 day ago

I have and it's true that she's atrocious.

This country has voted for useless tossers bringing stupidity in recent history though.

mikkiangelo.bsky.social•1 day ago

If he wanted any kind of deal with the EU, he had to give up on one of his red lines.

jsteve.bsky.social•1 day ago

I worry that this is just an attempt by Starmer to move a bunch of military age kids closer to the front-line.

eckfactory.bsky.social•18 hours ago

💙🐹

rayalder.bsky.social•1 day ago

Another step

serenaindescai.bsky.social•1 day ago

Question from Italy: why isn't there a proposal for rejoin referendum? And would that be a grand message to send overseas?

foxylizard.bsky.social•1 day ago

It would be a great message. It's also common sense which is rarer than hen's teeth in the UK at the moment.

i-do-despair.bsky.social•1 day ago

We’ve all signed petitions…one of the issues is that this’d need at least the two main parties to agree. It’d take longer than one parliament to sort out. EU would want stability not a threat of it all being withdrawn again. It’s a ridiculous situation; most voters are now pro-joining. What a mess.

philmyers53.bsky.social•1 day ago

Have you signed the right petition? Commission a public inquiry into the impact of the UK exiting the European Union https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700184

i-do-despair.bsky.social•1 day ago

Yes. This one and many others!

philmyers53.bsky.social•1 day ago

Thanks

susanglh.bsky.social•1 day ago

The country is still too febrile.

williemillersm1.bsky.social•1 day ago

Neither of the two main parties are ready or have the spine to admit and persuade people that we made an arse of ourselves.

serenaindescai.bsky.social•1 day ago

But the people know already, right?

williemillersm1.bsky.social•1 day ago

Yes but knowing and being prepared to admit it are different things.

blogdignag.bsky.social•1 day ago

Spot on

evies13.bsky.social•1 day ago

I'd like to see that, but we have a Lab Party that has nailed its colours to 'Brexit'. A Referendum at this point would be contrary to its Manifesto, expensive and would give a big platform to our fascists, like Reform-Farage and Tory-Badenoch.

Rejoin will take longer.

serenaindescai.bsky.social•1 day ago

Thank you 🥹

avazig.bsky.social•1 day ago

Also, what's the point of rejoining when the party that rules this country 70% of the time wants to be outside of the EU?

Will the EU humour perpetual joining and leaving cycle?

tamarainportugal.bsky.social•1 day ago

It is some grudging leeway. It is not "fantastic". The measly detail of the proposal says it all. The spirit of this is very much looking over the shoulder with concern about Brexiters, racists & RW nutcases reaction - instead of any small olive branch to core Labour & European voters.

alec10k.bsky.social•9 hours ago

Spot on.

tamarainportugal.bsky.social•1 day ago

This changes little for the May summit.

uk501.bsky.social•1 day ago

In one respect tRump has achieved a way for UK re-entry into the EU
Something he DIDN’T want to happen!

The UK & Europe are Much Stronger together

Combined military aircraft outnumber Russia 3-1

mumshoes.bsky.social•20 hours ago

Now we need an adult mobility Scheme also. I'm still furious that our FOM was stolen by lying Tories and Farage. Give it back NOW.

steven-t-green.bsky.social•1 day ago

This is idiotic.
There's no momentum.
It is an insulting response by UK.
The EU will not accept Stamer's caveats.
And I suspect he knows this.

lemmymotorhead.bsky.social•1 day ago

Time to up the pressure

james-blair.bsky.social•1 day ago

Can't we just rejoin?

davidhardstaff.co.uk•1 day ago

Transformational - our daughter is studying in Austria, and got her permit with less than 24 hours to spare before her 90 days ran out. Many appointments back and forth to get it, and some cost, including expensive monthly health insurance (no EHIC now!) so this would have been handy a year ago!

davidpeacock40.bsky.social•1 day ago

Great news and definitely a move in the right direction but I want more, I turn 60 this year and want my FOM back in time for my retirement

ashleyvburns.bsky.social•1 day ago

Here's hoping 🙏

purpletea280.bsky.social•1 day ago

What’s happened?

pauldupreez.bsky.social•1 day ago

Good, what about the rest of us?

crabsclaws.bsky.social•1 day ago

I'm hoping for a pensioners mobility scheme now

jonty24.bsky.social•1 day ago

Fingers crossed. And once you have the first deal in the can, it is often the case that subsequent ones are easier to do. A lot will probably depend on how the deal is received. I suspect media reaction will be very mixed, but voters will hopefully be more receptive.

ghostedsheets.bsky.social•1 day ago

No way, Starmer will just U-turn yet again.

chasmanthium.bsky.social•1 day ago

And St Pancras now planning more trips through the Tunnel while reporting from the USA suggests they aren't interested in trade deals (if they ever were) too..
This is all starting to point one way.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg5d6l5lz4jo

sheffieldhoney.bsky.social•1 day ago

I want it for all ages ✋

thelisasimpson.bsky.social•9 hours ago

A step in the right direction but I'm not happy about the financial obstacle for those without the means. They will need to have £3604 available in cash before they even apply. https://www.gov.uk/youth-mobility#:~:text=You%20can%20apply%20for%20a,on%20where%20you're%20from

lindapearson.bsky.social•1 day ago

Starmer moves at his own pace.

kikidevine.bsky.social•1 day ago

Baby step, but it's in the right direction

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