"just months into office, Labour’s sweeping cuts have left many questioning whether they truly voted for change, or simply a rebranded version of the austerity-driven politics they sought to escape."
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Labour have made some positive moves but still there are many areas they are scared to tread.
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Won't tax wealth, happy to increase child poverty, happy to punish disabled and chronically sick people for no reason, happy to tell endless lies and break all their promises,
Streeting's payments received from private healthcare while he wrecks the NHS,
We need to give Labour a chance. That’s what I’m saying.
We need patience. And voters must be better informed.
And not be fooled by the right populist movement which is essentially what has broken the uk
Education is the key
But it might be too late for the uk
I fear it might be
I've paid enough attention to their behaviour, Starmer is a war criminal, ditto Lammy, they could tax wealth and also immediately run a deficit to find whatever is needed,
so you can disagree all you want, they're already proving you so very very wrong,
Them being voted in with a large majority is giving that chance. They then deciding to not even show intent is on current leadership. This is serious problem as the right wing nut case is waiting to bag in a lot of dugruntled voters, avoiding that requires investment in public owned infra. Intent?
I don't disagree with that assessment but given something was stretched in one direction, Bringing it back to normal requires pulling in opposite direction. Irrespective, the low hanging fruit of Single Market or making investments in publicly owned infra, will generate growth and show intent IMHO.
They'll have 4 years if they don't produce material change for the people who've suffered most from the austerity they're continuing, and all the careful planning will mean nothing. That's where we're at.
That's where we're at. If you're saying it's not simple to do what's needed then I agree, yet if it's not done Labour will lose at the next election and right wing populists will be in power. Yes the UK needs a culture change but that isn't happening any time soon, sadly.
We need to give Labour a chance. That’s what I’m saying.
We need patience. And voters must be better informed.
And not be fooled by the right populist movement which is essentially what has broken the uk
Education is the key
But it might be too late for the uk
I fear it might be
It's fine to say that, it's fine to say don't be fooled by fascists, but people are being fooled by them and there isn't time, there's 4 short years. So, I think it's best that Labour act with this urgency in mind, not a hypothetical 15 years that they absolutely will not get, not in England.
British politics is short term, it means they’ve got to show they’re different immediately.
So far, they’ve not shown much intent to change. Cutting disability payments, winter fuel allowance and keeping the two child benefit cap suggests they have no intention of delivering meaningful change.
It appears what we’ve voted for is a basic level of competence . Welcome , after the 14 year shitshow we’ve had, but not the change we need. “Same shit done competently for the most part” is a bit less than I was hoping for
Labour inherited a uniquely bad situation in 2024. Public services wrecked by 14 years of ideological cuts and a record peacetime national debt, interest for which costs us about the same as we spend on education. Hard decisions need to come first or nothing will change. Jam later.
True. Most people earnings and standard of living were 14 years behind. They still are, yet financiers continue to gamble with our future's.
Pay decent pensions from public coffers and get rid of 'the markets'.
Remember 'dot com'?
But some jam soon would be helpful. Right now it looks as if those with least to spare are left on their decades-stagnant Tory wages while services don't improve, failing utilities are allowed to enrich themselves, and a gover with no ethical stance on anything to compensate.
We pay about the same in debt interest as we do on education. It's a double whammy, services need money, yet we have to pay down the debt. We've had some jam but there's a limit to how much we can buy right now.
This couldn't be more true. After 15 years of Tory austerity and cuts to the most vulnerable we have Starmer. From hope to hopeless as he also refuses to stand up Trump.
There is definite change in capability and purpose but they do need to acknowledge the current global change and drive out austerity through a different set of fiscal rules. Their current rules are not fit for purpose.
Many people are quietly leaving the Labour Party by stopping paying their subs. Years of canvassing only to get the robot that is Rachel Reeves & McSweeny
Wandering how much more "we" #50sWomen
have left to sacrifice.
Personally anxiously waiting for DWP PC review incoming later today.
The sacrifice seems never ending for many of us.
I’ve been happy to give Labour the benefit of the doubt so far, after all it took 14 years to get into the mess we’re in, but publishing migrant crime data seems to be pandering to Reform voters who will never vote Labour regardless
What if it shows how little crime is committed by foreigners though ( relative to that carried out by UK nationals ) ?
I assume that the nationality of the the British ones will be visible too ?
Surely that will douse the Reform / Tory fearmongering ? If presented well, and followed up by the press.
Everything gets catastrophised anyway. One foreigner committing a crime equals all foreigners commit crimes.
If there are facts that show what the real story is, chances are they'll just drop this particular hobby horse. They don't like to push things that can be disproven.
Most of us just held our noses and voted Tories out. I don't think Starmer realises it - he just thought his purges had everyone running to (his) Labour Party.
All parties kowtow to their billionaire masters. Money owns politics or we would have excellent services for our taxes. Instead we get shit in rivers and rich water company executives.
Whichever party gains power, the metrics are the same.
The country has no money because the rich have taken and offshored it all, and the government sold what couldn't be taken to foreign investors.
The country is up shit creek with no paddle.
At the last election we were still well within the austerity that started in 2010. We are now even deeper in austerity. Some people seem to think that austerity ended years ago - wrong. Austerity ends when everything we lost after 2010 gets refunded.
If a government does not work on behalf of the people, or actively works against them then they are not a govt. in the true sense. They have no purpose -other than their own benefit.
£200 billion was stolen using the pandemic as cover. If Sir Kid Starver wants to look for money, he should pursue the thieves who enabled that to happen!
At the VERY least, Starmer, Sarwar et al need to stop bleating an unequivocal NO to rejoining ESM and CU ... without these things - especially now the US is imploding - the UK is pretty much buggered
Our issues were and, still are caused by the smoke and mirrors financial industry.
We won't improve life for ordinary people until Starmer gets a grip on the City of London.
Like that theme song Blair played ‘things can only get better’. That quickly soured.
I thought the whole idea of gaining power was to improve the lives of your people. I suppose it should read some people.
I never trusted this Labour regime, that’s why I voted Green last time and will do in the future. I’m really hoping for a true progressive Alliance to form.
You have to question their abilities when confronted with what is happening in the world and still avoid proper meaningful conversation with the EU about the path to rejoin. I doubt the majority of us voted for, or support, the current continuation of Tory policy. We wanted change - we still want it
The Tories always knew this would be the case. Labour were going to be damned whatever they did. The Tories have wrecked everything to a point where fixing it means stripping everything back to start again.
I know they COULD just pay for everything, but they'd be crucified for that too.
1. What % of potential Reform voters are aware of Farage's NHS privatisation plans?
2. What % of potential Reform voters are "happy" with Farage's Trump/ sycophancy?
3. Are these people aware of the brutality Putin's people would inflict on this country should they patrol the streets?
Just like every other country had to. I had an accident in Austria and needed an operation. I waited two days. I worked in the NHS, all they do is cut direct funding and give it to private companies. And Starmer's doing the same. Where have his promises gone from when he was up for leader election?
No-one surely can still possibly be still questioning that they’ve voted for a right wing Tory Govt masquerading as Lab. Austerity, make Brexit work, vicious assault on sick & elderly, greater NHS privatisation, non-reversal of Tories gerrymandering/curtailment of civil liberties. It’s a slam dunk.
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Time and careful planning, consideration and caution??
Won't tax wealth, happy to increase child poverty, happy to punish disabled and chronically sick people for no reason, happy to tell endless lies and break all their promises,
Streeting's payments received from private healthcare while he wrecks the NHS,
I hate the cunts now.
We need to give Labour a chance. That’s what I’m saying.
We need patience. And voters must be better informed.
And not be fooled by the right populist movement which is essentially what has broken the uk
Education is the key
But it might be too late for the uk
I fear it might be
so you can disagree all you want, they're already proving you so very very wrong,
I also despise their support of genocide.
Good
Luck
Neoliberalist bullshit isn't going to fix anything, but Starmer, McSweeney and the rest of them will never admit that,
There's not a socialist bone in any of their bodies, Tories in Labour drag, that's all.
Uk needs centre left Polices for 30 years and a return to a belief in society. A cultural shift
I don’t think it will happen
I think the uk will decline further
I think voters are unrealistic about what can be done quickly.
Uk needs a culture change and reverse the madness introduced by thatcher
Somehow voters were brainwashed
We need patience. And voters must be better informed.
And not be fooled by the right populist movement which is essentially what has broken the uk
Education is the key
But it might be too late for the uk
I fear it might be
Education has failed but that is also a right populist movement plan
Ignore the intelligent ppl
Baffle and bamboozle the rest with slogans ….
The far right wins
The poor lose
Again
So far, they’ve not shown much intent to change. Cutting disability payments, winter fuel allowance and keeping the two child benefit cap suggests they have no intention of delivering meaningful change.
Ppl must take personal responsibility for their health, children and lives.
Changing a broken country will take time. 14 years of destruction will take 20 years + to fix
And cultural change
Where voters realise thatcher started the rot and buy into society
By people taking responsibility for their health, do you mean that the severely disabled should never have got into the position they’re in?
As for the second point, that’s just silly
Pay decent pensions from public coffers and get rid of 'the markets'.
Remember 'dot com'?
But why is it the poor that have to suffer the pain.
Vote Green in May
Under the Conservative Tories, right wing extremism was adopted, coupled with abuse & corruption which lead to the collapse of orderly society.
Labour cannot rebuild a stronger Britain without sacrifice & time.
have left to sacrifice.
Personally anxiously waiting for DWP PC review incoming later today.
The sacrifice seems never ending for many of us.
I assume that the nationality of the the British ones will be visible too ?
Surely that will douse the Reform / Tory fearmongering ? If presented well, and followed up by the press.
We know how the Murdoch press and the BBC will spin it.
If there are facts that show what the real story is, chances are they'll just drop this particular hobby horse. They don't like to push things that can be disproven.
The country has no money because the rich have taken and offshored it all, and the government sold what couldn't be taken to foreign investors.
The country is up shit creek with no paddle.
And then look at Farage’s Reform!
We won't improve life for ordinary people until Starmer gets a grip on the City of London.
I thought the whole idea of gaining power was to improve the lives of your people. I suppose it should read some people.
I know they COULD just pay for everything, but they'd be crucified for that too.
2. What % of potential Reform voters are "happy" with Farage's Trump/ sycophancy?
3. Are these people aware of the brutality Putin's people would inflict on this country should they patrol the streets?
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/starmer-close-to-eu-arms-deal-at-the-expense-of-fishermen-fwckp5btr