Absolutely. There has to be some standards. If background checks stop you being employed at Walmart it should be the same for politicians but even stronger. The current situation is unacceptable.
I can't agree. We've seen bogus convictions used to prevent people from taking office. While I agree that certain crimes should be disqualifying, the courts should make that decision as part of sentencing.
Trump is guilty on so many levels. He was not convicted 34 times on any bogus charges. He has a long history of getting away with it. We need far better standards and selections.
(Assuming you mean felonies) Our legal system relies on the reparative effects of paying society it's due. Ex-cons have an extremely challenging time re-entering a rather heartless world. Most philosophies* embrace forgiveness and accept justiciar imperfection. (*excepting perhaps the Spartans)
I’d be curious if and when congress will call for violence against outright authoritarian leaders who choose not to follow federal judge orders or the constitution?
The dirty hate filled magats are the same ones who have no problem throwing children in hole. It’s especially true if they are not white. #fotus doesn’t care about anyone but himself & magats are the same disgusting things as he. It was easier to pick them out last felon’s term, they used labels.
Yeah, especially in light of the fact that Susan Collins is always telling us that she believes that Trump has learned his lesson. I’m starting to believe that Susan Collins either doesn’t know what the fuck she’s talking about or, she’s as much a liar as Trump
She's a liar and is happy to serve as a mouthpiece only to make it kind of sort of look like they contemplate anything. She's a dirty filthy piece of shit
It’s almost as if all of Trump’s shenanigans while out of office were orchestrated to get SCOTUS to rule that way so when he won again he could break laws with reckless abandon
I’m waiting for the EO to attempt to stack the court with like 5-10 more toadies that the senate will gleefully vote to confirm despite no authorization from the house
(Meanwhile the house just masturbates in the corner)
The supreme court will realise very well what they have done. Sooner are later they are going to know that their lives are in seriously in danger for defying the constitution. Scotus, Mitch and justice Canon are responsible for this mess
The heritage foundation has been planning this since his 2020 loss. Now everything has completely fallen into place. The republicans will back him no matter what! We are headed for a revolution! Please plan and not be complacent.
The Supreme Court ruled that former presidents have some immunity from criminal prosecution for actions taken as part of their official duties, which has led to interpretations that this could place Trump above the law in certain contexts.
Biden could have mowed the lot of them down and announced his presidential actions in Ray Bans and Miami Vice duds.
Then we wouldn’t have to put up with this shit.
If the Supreme Court sides with Trump disobeying the court, it will be the last thing they rule on. They will be obsolete and no matter what he promised them they will be just another casualty like Rudy and the pillow guy.
That’s my point. Dictators do not need courts. SCOTUS made a serious misjudgment on his immunity ruling. He won’t need them. It’s in their interest to rule against him but he controls the branch which enforces federal law. The coalition of state AGs being built is crucial because we need numbers.
Trump controls the top layer of the branch that enforces Federal law. We don't know how much resistance he'll see among the rank and file and how seriously they take their oath to defend the Constitution.
I’m not sure I follow your point nor do I think a wait and see approach is best here. We know he controls the branch that enforces federal law. That does not change the fact that this “law” SCOTUS created is illegitimate and should not be honored by the house/senate.
if they do that someone's gonna burn the place down. or at least samuel alito's house. there's no way he and the little flag-waving missus would make it through that. probably take out the thomases too.
I believe it's time for American voters to gather in Washington, D.C., every day with bullhorns outside SCOTUS and the House of Representatives. Peacefully, of course. We need to demand answers instead of relying on leaders like Pelosi, Schumer, and other older Democratic figures to take action.
I mean that is just an empty bullshit useless thing to say, but I interpret that as him calling on the courts to actually hold him accountable. It won't work, but he's not saying don't worry guys
I was referring to the "what people say part," Jim.
You're sort of a "shoot first, ask questions later" type, eh Jim?
603 US 593 (2024) is 119 pages. Which page are you flexing on?
I've written about the Roberts court a'plenty. Personally, I prefer Earl Warren's jurisprudence. Even while comatose.😄
I came onto BlueSky to write this. This is on Judge Cannon and the Supreme Court. Pardon criminals that has due process then give them a job in the federal government, why the hell not?
Thought judiciary is actually holding the line on some things . Of course he’s going to push the envelope and SCOTUS gave him a reason to. But he won’t get everything he wants.
How can a person be above the law? So he can go steal, or does his tax fraud or whatever and gets not punished! Let’s say like James Bond, a license to kill!!! That is above my understanding!
Schumer had a piece of legislation called the no kings act. If he'd have gotten that legislation passed before January 20th, things might not have been so bad.
Actually, no. Biden *could* have chosen to disregard the law and would have faced no criminal or civil consequences. But Biden, for all his flaws, has not lost his humanity. Unlike the sociopath-in-chief.
The American republic ended July 1 when SCOTUS put the president above the law. We're just watching its death throes. Those of us who care are going to have to put aside our partisanship and our partisan wish lists and attend to what made our squabbles possible: freedom.
The immunity ruling shields even former presidents from their in-office acts; even under the best of circumstances, Trump will never suffer a legal penalty for his official crimes. As for "dramatic", other republics have fallen under not too dissimilar circumstances.
The Supreme Court may have said the president is above the law, but everyone around him isn’t. So if he gives an illegal order, his staff gets prosecuted while he’s left alone, flailing like a tantrum-throwing orange toddler in a crib. Hope someone hid the nukes. #SCOTUS
Hi Tammy. I see that you consider yourself a fact checker. Official acts is awfully vague language. How do you understand this to mean that any president is not above the law when so many legal and constitutional scholars understand the opposite of what you suggest?
Yes, i do my best to fact check what i read b4 i re post anything unless its from a readily known/ established source, i generally supply sources.
I will have to look further on this to double-check my current understanding.
Incorrect. The ruling says that when he is exercising his constitutionally granted powers--even if he does so criminally or unconstitutionally--he is immune. Worse, with regard to those powers, the courts aren't even allowed to question his motives.
An endless doom loop of pardons. It’s like being stuck in an endless loop of Dr Strange’s own making. This is not a way out. It didn’t work in Nuremberg and it won’t work now. Crime, prosecute, pardon, crime, prosecute, pardon. Yeehaw!
And that's a bad thing, because democracy got us to where we are today. We need to defend the principles on which this country was founded and their implementation in our government, not the status quo ante.
Why surprise. He owns the Supreme Court. The only thing they have not done YET is have meetings at Mar a lago. Because that would appear to be inappropriate.
I believe the Supreme Court underestimated that 4 savvy programmers would ACTUALLY put Trump back in office for a second term.
They should actually review the case again.
Really? A hand picked court of spineless bigots side with their manny? I’m not surprised at all. I expect nothing but biased racist based decisions from the highest court we have, simply because they are of low moral character except the couple that have no power against the many.
It’s UP TO US!!
This fact check originally appeared on PolitiFact.
In a landmark ruling with potentially major impact on the 2024 presidential campaign, a U.S. Supreme Court majority ruled that presidents — including former President Donald Trump — have immunity from prosecution when carrying out “official acts.”
He’s going down along with his criminal enterprise against the United States. If I’m wrong, I’ll own it. If I’m right, I’ll act like I just won the superbowl and be all up in you face!! 🤣😂
I can't believe how many people still buy into him. I'm in rural TN and as soon as you say you don't like Trump, you're against freedom and civil liberties. Like, we are talking about the same guy, right?
Well who do you think will do it? To do it would be acting perhaps outside the law at times to get it going. Most people except T & his crowd are very law abiding. T and Musk are counting on that. It would take courage, confidence to rise up you’d need lot of people to back you. Who has the courage?
there are probably pockets of generals here and there who can't stand Trump and Musk and who are appalled by what's happening. Once Trump's bluster becomes actuality, I'm sure there could be a surge of willingness to contain Trump. Invading Gaza or Panama just might be that push that does it.
I hope you’re right. Unless something really awful happens I just can’t see anyone challenging him. high unemployment & inflation could be factors. M & T excited by money they will save by firing millions of people. Of course several million people all looking for jobs isn’t going to be good either
would’ve thought other way around. don’t have job, you have time to gather with others dissatisfied with situation & potential for mob protests. Resentment, anger over loss of job, rising prices all surprises Magats didn’t expect. I know two late 50’s lost their job, no money, no retirement plan
Trump is trying to destroy the USA as a constitutional republic. The Repugnants who control Congress are letting him do it. If Trump ignores the courts, the military will be our only chance. We may have to show how we will become ungovernable unless we get our fucking democracy back.
I can't believe that a KGB agent was disqualifiable and he went ahead and ran for President anyway with Russian help and Senate just let the terrorist appoint them.
SCOTUS said he is immune for official acts. Then Roberts said, “Federal courts must be respected & obeyed.“ Next time l’il Donnie gets prosecuted, SCOTUS will say, “Ignoring federal court orders is not an ‘official act’ , no immunity”.
(They’re getting a room ready for you at Guantanamo, Donnie.)
I would have too! Trumps a wacko.... Why take a chance he'd imprison somebody. And i just read yesterday that the x fbi informant guy who said all that stuff against Hunter said it was untrue. He confessed.
Because Trump is a psycho and will go after innocent members of one’s family just to get even for coming after him for actual criminal activities like January 6th. You know Trump you is a petty little bitch.
What are we going to do when trump’s henchmen start arresting members of Congress, journalists, professors, judges & other falsely accused perceived enemies?
If nothing else I'm thankful that the founders had the foresight to divide the country into states. If shit really hits the fan we already have our own functioning governments and institutions - and in the case of blue states, a budget surplus if we jettison the rest of the country.
That's why people need to coordinate now, form groups, networks, mutual aid. In blue states people may have a better chance as local government may be friendly.
I can’t believe what a scum bag Roberts turned out to be. I remember thinking Bush at least pick a reasonable republican only to find out he is a sneaky bastard buying time until they destroy the country. He is on the list.
Roberts and McConnell are the two biggest reasons Trump is where he is, and MAGA has its boot on the nation’s neck. Both of them could have stopped all of this. They are Benedict Arnolds!
Stop what they created. They are the architects. At least Roberts is. He was just looking for the best front man. Brain is blocked but they have a group that has to go. Forget name.
Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson postulated precisely this concern during the oral argument of the immunity case. She didn't get any kind of reasonable response.
I can't believe you're surprised by all this. Trump essentially "bought and paid for" his Supreme Ct nominees, so they felt they had to return the favor; the did.
Trum's sole agenda is to stay out of jail & promote his family's businesses at the expense of anyone who gets in his way. He is a lawless effigy of a president and sadly, is demonstrating that disrespecting the law is how to be successful. It will be a long 4 years, hopefully democracy will survive.
Thank you! I've been thinking the same thing. Someone on msnbc last night (Lawrence? It's all starting to blur...) said even if Trump is "immune," staff downstream are not. "Trump said it's ok" isn't a defense for them. Everyone is bound by the law. Of course, Trump could pardon them. But would he?
we need that bs immunity ruling revisited. I do not believe the 6 would hold, at least Barrett and Gorsuch would join the 3 ladies to dissent because what is happening is definitely not what they signed up for, IMHO.
The slave owners in the south were always terrified that their slaves would rise up against them. King Trump thinks this is a game right now. Soon he will be scared.
Indicative of the real welfare queens and terrorists you need to worry about, not someone from another country, they're right in your backyard, running multi-billion dollar corporations, and holding office.
Your oppression is their profession
👉 you need to read the decision, his his immunity is limited
it does NOT protect him if he violates the constitution or breaks federal laws
Musk has absolutely no immunity and is breaking federal laws left and right, he could and should and possibly will be arrested, hard as that is to believe
All of that is subject to the scotus interpretation of “official acts”. It’s not narrowly defined. It’s broad and sweeping af, especially with a man who is wired to try and take everything he wants as an official act
Agreed. Fascists will not go quietly. But ousting them is easier than living under a fascist regime for the rest of your life. Many law enforcement officers will volunteer to make the arrests. I would. Maga will revolt. So arrest those as well. You've got this.
They are setting an army in place to support them and none of the vaunted checks and balances are helping. UNless they act quickly, it will be too late and public perception is not on their side right now. Things will need to get much worse.
It was a national betrayal and the last president ensured his legacy was allowing all of this to happen despite having the power to stop a seditious insurrectionist from coming to power in a position they cannot legally hold.
The executive branch consists of the President, his or her advisors and various departments and agencies. This branch is responsible for enforcing the laws of the land. The last president didn't enforce that part of the constitution that says insurrectionists can't be president....
The Supreme clown Court gave Trump immunity, they made it clear that they would be the ones who determined what he could & could not do. Biden was in a no win situation. I know it's easy to blame him for everything, but the problem is the traitorous clown court not him.
I’m not blaming him for anything. I just don’t understand what he was and wasn’t “allowed” to do. It was an awful position for him to be in. Of course now it’s an awful position for all of us.
Biden could have resigned and had President Harris blanket pardon him. He had nothing whatsoever to worry about. And lets say he did. How old is he again? He would have been dead before any consequences ever impacted him. He chose himself and his worthless values that amounted to squat in real life.
I wish we could say they were naive rather than this is just what they wanted. They knew Biden or Harris wouldn't use this dubious power, but the next Republican would.
All I know is that this country is not ruled by laws but by white men in power. The fact that in 2025, uneducated people still thinks "skin color" makes one superior OR inferior. Besides that insane thinking, INEQUALITY along with structural racism, will most likely be the cause of USA destruction.
Yes, I very much agree. And also, it’s the *racist* part that is at the issue. The racist power structures are driven largely by highly educated people.
Fundamentally it's religious hatred Christians. Trump first 4 years loosened laws by executive order allowing Church to get involved in politics without losing tax exemption. He granted Christians a voice . And the Christians re-elected him. And all the hate that came along with the religion.
They had no foresight. They empowered him to the point that he could make them irrelevant if the do not obey. Their function would be relegated to signing off on his dictates. They will have no power except symbolic.
I can't believe the supreme court said that Biden needed congress to cancel student loans, and the elected republicans are pointing fingers at the current president saying its out of their control, "it's their policy"
GOP CONGRESS CAN ACT TO STOP CUTS that affect the health and safety of everyone
no one is *willing* to become alexei navalny. the only way for that to happen is for a government to unfairly, cruelly, unjustly, incessantly to punish a citizen or citizens for what should be humanly inalienable rights. you're placing the onus on the wrong party.
Oh no. It takes many more than one. Alex was noble and brave, but he’s dead and Putin is still a living dictator. One man does not make a revolution except in fairytales and Disney movies.
He’s not immune from civil litigation. And contempt of court with jail as a result of disobedience from court orders in those cases are not
Immune either.
Can you give me time to get out of this red state. I moved here to help my mother who has since disowned me because I tried 2 explain Project 2025 b4 the election.
😢 so devastating the Impact this has on Relationships that mean So Much!! That was 1 Part of the Covil War I struggled with—How did Families turn on Eachother?? Now we know…
It's inevitable at this point. Besides...it wouuld be amusing to see him and his collection of clowns try to deal with an actual crisis on top of his self-manufactured crisis.
He’s never cared the slightest for the law, always skirting and breaking established rules and guidelines. This goes WAY back, the signals were there all along.
You keep what you value.
You have what you accept.
That’s why I said go hard on pressuring the Republicans. Keep pressuring Dems too but the fact that the R’s CAN do something but nobody is pressuring them to is FRUSTRATING.
Most breaches of contract fall under civil jurisdiction, with remedies awarded through state courts. However, situations involving fraud, theft, or forgery move into criminal territory, governed by state statutes for fraud and theft.
Too busy playing ‘nice guy’. Crooks don’t respect decency - they take advantage. Not the proverbial ‘rocket science’, is it. Practicalities first then playing ‘statesman’ I think.
Sorry Kevin, but I dont recall SCOTUS said those very words. I believe, they said, he is immuned from any acts while he is in office as Pres. of the US. The root word/s you Americans need to monitor is "immuned WHILE he was in office as Pres. of the US".
But SCOTUS is now in deep turmoil esp Roberts
Immune from acts while POTUS is BOGUS. GOP-controlled SCOTUS unraveled the balance of powers which was set up to check any rogue president from running amok such as trump.
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(Meanwhile the house just masturbates in the corner)
Very bad day.
He's CORRUPTIBLE!!!
Then we wouldn’t have to put up with this shit.
It could be a parody written by a progressive, but you’re right—I don’t need it. Thank you for saving me from myself!
Except your version is said better. Keep it up!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_v._United_States_(2024)#:~:text=On%20July%201%2C%202024%2C%20the,no%20immunity%20for%20unofficial%20acts.
You're sort of a "shoot first, ask questions later" type, eh Jim?
603 US 593 (2024) is 119 pages. Which page are you flexing on?
I've written about the Roberts court a'plenty. Personally, I prefer Earl Warren's jurisprudence. Even while comatose.😄
They are targeting the rule of law, civil service, LGBT+, immigrants and foreign countries for the moment.
A fog to please MAGA & hide their coup?
Anyone believe women’s/black rights are safe?
We know Trumps record & Elon’s a machine on a mission.
Elon should be ICEd right now and sent back to South Africa.
As you say, freedom depends on a majority willing to defend it, regardless of individual differences.
Let's just give up our beautiful country to an orange ape MFer
Mugga after he does whatever we warned. " Stop your whining, you lost. Get over it
I will have to look further on this to double-check my current understanding.
everyone below him including those who will “execute his directives” has to decide;
“is this an official act, or an unlawful selfish act of personal pique/gain? and then if ‘official’ is it a legal act?”
If they decide wrong THEY face consequences.
you break the party that gives him power by breaking his control over the levers of civil government.
Our constitution was intended to render over-coming these kind of threats as bloodless as possible.
They are targeting the rule of law, civil service, LGBT+, immigrants and foreign countries for the moment.
A fog to please MAGA & hide their coup?
Does anyone believe womens’ rights are safe?
We know Trumps record & Elon’s a machine on a mission.
We are not.
They should actually review the case again.
It’s UP TO US!!
https://medium.com/@thcarter123/five-easy-pieces-how-elite-dc-reporters-fvcked-up-enabled-leonard-leos-christofacist-coup-5b4dd549fe48
In a landmark ruling with potentially major impact on the 2024 presidential campaign, a U.S. Supreme Court majority ruled that presidents — including former President Donald Trump — have immunity from prosecution when carrying out “official acts.”
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/key-facts-from-the-supreme-courts-immunity-ruling-and-how-it-affects-presidential-power
(They’re getting a room ready for you at Guantanamo, Donnie.)
Alexander Hamilton rolled over a few times in the grave when he heard that name.
IT NEVER WORKED.
I’m sure the 3 moral intellectuals are fuming mad.
But the others… any regret from any of them?
What are they after? Who are they going to lord it over when they are finished? Each other?
That was the 💡 moment.
They were compromised from the get go.
Your oppression is their profession
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/02/what-justice-jackson-warned-about-in-the-trump-immunity-case-is-coming-true/
eyeroll-in-the-afterlife desperately needed)
scroll all the way down
never be more cynical than is verifiably appropriate,
spreading despair and hopelessness rather than motivating people to continue to fight
is giving into this very psychological warfare, disempowering us
RESIST BY BEING INFORMED:
https://poe.com/s/xOq0i8SjmEQPpmPy1RV1?utm_source=link
it does NOT protect him if he violates the constitution or breaks federal laws
Musk has absolutely no immunity and is breaking federal laws left and right, he could and should and possibly will be arrested, hard as that is to believe
and I strongly recommend continuing the conversation, as you can, and asking further questions
AI is a priceless resource when it comes to legal information, especially the bots that can access live Internet
https://poe.com/s/xOq0i8SjmEQPpmPy1RV1?utm_source=link
I'm confident you'll find a great way to oust them.
Of course I am unclear as to whether or not SCOTUS meant “from now on” or “starting with the next one” or what.
Either way, he didn’t and we are right well fucked.
GOP CONGRESS CAN ACT TO STOP CUTS that affect the health and safety of everyone
The thing is, it only takes one.
it's a fucking shit hole
That'd be less bloody, and Putin would agree to anything that reduced the USA to a fragment of its former self so the Republicans would be abandoned.
Immune either.
I feel like we need a team to do this across Bluesky to help reduce ppl getting misinformation.
No Republican or the supreme Court is going to try to stop him. That's where America will be now.
He’d be left with 20% of the US economy
You keep what you value.
You have what you accept.
But SCOTUS is now in deep turmoil esp Roberts