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davidfowl.com • 3 days ago

“Technical Discussion: What drives the Enterprise vs Startup divide in .NET?"

https://www.reddit.com/r/dotnet/s/afnuKgzywf

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edolic.bsky.social•2 days ago

Why is this important? If you try to cater to all groups, .NET will become too generic and won't effectively serve anyone. However, this doesn't mean that .NET shouldn't evolve and become an excellent choice for startups by offering a robust toolchain.

tizzolicious.bsky.social•22 hours ago

If your on a 12 yr .net or java project...you're employed to maintain what that team decides to --start-- with. The inertia to not change after that is nearly insermountable.

I am that team lead then and now and choosing .net is getting harder due to --perception--

noodlenog.bsky.social•3 days ago

Do people still think of .NET as “Microsoft for Java”, which is another capable platform eschewed by many startups?

catalintomescu.bsky.social•3 days ago

I'm not working for a startup but the perception is that .net is still a vendor lock in, windows ecosystem, even though the reality is different!

tizzolicious.bsky.social•23 hours ago

🧵I have soooo many hot takes for playing in the enterprise and startup space

1. MS is its own echo chamber, as bad as the Valley's Koolaide

1. Top level Statement & Minimal APIs (best decision in the past 10yrs)

2. Not making VSCode *The* crossplat IDE from the start (worst decision EVER)

(1/3)

tizzolicious.bsky.social•23 hours ago

We have to meet the devs where they are and that's VSCode, build apps as if their "script apps"

Produce content of .net showing this ☝️

4. Everything UI screams corporate. (worst) @davidfowl.com you guys worked a miracle on the Aspire FE with Fluent. Working w it is so foreign to non-ms fluent ppl

davidfowl.com•3 days ago

Perception continues to be a problem for .NET. 10 years after we open sourced the platform.

nwsoftwareguy.bsky.social•3 days ago

As someone that loves C# and keeps coming back I think that people are afraid of the curly braces. But given a lot of fluent syntax is now just collection.Where(x => x.SomeProperty == ).ToList().Foreach(x => DoSomeLogic); C# and .NET just play well with data fast. And you need to /1

nwsoftwareguy.bsky.social•3 days ago

almost play around with the language for a little bit to get it. My only gripe around .NET and the platform lately is how hard Entra makes it to work with Office 365 and Teams Apps. It's like Bicep to talk to Yaml to produce wha..??? Come on, make the entry in faster and you will draw more people.

davidfowl.com•3 days ago

You jumped from .NET to Microsoft ecosystem problems. That’s the blessing and curse of .NET. People conflate those things and can’t split them apart in their head.

dodyg.bsky.social•3 days ago

It's time for Super Bowl 2026 .NET 10 ad blitz

davidfowl.com•3 days ago

.NET X 😂

peterzolja.bsky.social•3 days ago

Just think of the adoption rate of version 11 in China

dodyg.bsky.social•3 days ago

Is that the new XBox?

jaapk.bsky.social•3 days ago

I expected to see .NET 10 Preview 1 the second Tuesday of February? That didn't happen, I thought the world had ended. Well, maybe it happens before the second Tuesday of March.

And if Microsoft calls it X, I'll stop developing with NET. Sure, I'm overreacting, but I'm serious.

tebeco.bsky.social•2 days ago

this needs to be fixed in school and uni

on discord we see a lot of student doing school project with teacher giving them netfx code based, down to webforms

staff refuse to update "my courses works, why would i change"

marajohnson.bsky.social•3 days ago

I'm lucky in that the company I'm at started out as a dotnet startup. First on desktop then onto Azure

pierbover.com•1 day ago

I'm in the startup camp and currently learning dotnet.

Perception is definitely an issue but the second biggest issue is that it's hard to get into dotnet (for a number of reasons).

I would love to chat about it if you're interested.

mammaclauds.bsky.social•1 day ago

Hi Pier, David and I would love to chat about this. Could you DM me and we can schedule some time to discuss?

pierbover.com•1 day ago

Sure!

Could you follow me so I can DM you?

mammaclauds.bsky.social•1 day ago

Done :)

coendewit.bsky.social•2 days ago

We started a company 4 years ago with .NET (with React SPA FE). I believe .NET is still quite popular in the Netherlands.

coendewit.bsky.social•2 days ago

And quite successful I should add.

devlead.se•3 days ago

I find the "Enterprise vs. Startup" narrative a bit tiresome, from my experience, there are several startups that choose .NET, personally been involved in a couple each year. One reflection though is that many of these aren't loud about their tech stack, and are pragmatic about solving biz problems.

rogiervanderhee.bsky.social•3 days ago

Lots of dark matter devs in .NET I guess

devlead.se•3 days ago

I would say there are loads - maybe even the majority of developers in any stack that come to work, pick an item on the backlog, and ship it, without the need to sell their tech stack opinions to anyone who meets them.

robodobdob.bsky.social•3 days ago

.net devs are the ones at tech conventions with no stickers on their laptops. 🤭

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