It feels like grass is being thrown at me when Iβm out with someone and I mention βoh yeah some people online really donβt like meβ and they are genuinely shocked by that. π β€οΈ
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The bigger you get the more people that will dislike you
I mean everyone is entitled to an opinion, wether itβs justifiable or actually matters though?
Like I understand people not liking an artist's work or even the artist themselves just for the sake of it. But don't spread rumors about real people, those can seriously harm someone's reputation.
You can dislike Vivzie all you want, but stop trying to paint her as some evil "mastermind" smh.
All the hate seems to be relegated to online circles. When I'm out in my Chaggie hoodie, people are always wanting to talk about how hyped they are for your shows!
Parasocial relationships are wild. Our generation was taught to identify trolls (our age)and ignore them. Now we have more generations online, and that doesnβt work so well. I used to ignore them but these days I try to come into their DMs, as the 35 yo grown ass woman I am, to shame them gently.
I feel like most of the hate is online and from like some chronically online teenagers who are mad that the shows have cursing and imperfect, flawed relationships and characters. queer rep must always be positive, or something like that.
Back when I started getting into your shows, I decided to read your wiki to see if you'd gotten into any controversies, and it was all the most banal, petty melodrama I've ever seen. All of your "controversies" are just people being mad at you for making stuff they're not personally fond of.
I've never heard that expression before; "grass thrown at me".
Finding someone who likes you for you is always a plus. Someone who can see a person beyond their computer and real time is always a must.
I honestly love you (internet wise never met you in real life lol)
But my reason is your videos actually kept me from committing suicide, cause the day I was gonna do it I saw one of your videos and wanted more, and just never committed so thank you Vivziepop you save my life.β€οΈβ€οΈ
People are weird, stupid, and absurdly petty, especially online. For what it's worth, I doubt you could do anything that'd make a lot of us hate you. Rewatching the pilot for Hazbin was one of the things that kept me sane early in the pandemic β€οΈ
Let me say this to you. There will always be people who think that, but they will always be people who appreciate you and care for you as much as you care about your characters, your creations. Remember, You are love and appreciate. And I'm always honest about that
Can someone explain to me why the internet despises you so much? Every time I used X there was at least 2 viral tweets in my TL about how you are evil incarnate. I refuse to sit through 500 out of context discord screenshots and old posts to learn so I am asking here for a brief explanation.
its weird people are shocked by that. If you said the same thing about the average person, most should be like 'eh makes sense'. The fact you are an animator and show runner isn't going to change that. You can't please everyone, choose who you wanna and ignore the rest. <3
And for no good reason at all. -_- God forbid woman create something secusessful. Yet I never saw such hate for, idk, Elmer Hartman, who claims to cure autism and cancer with a power of his cult. -_-
Why be surprised? Every famous person has their own haters who will throw mud at you for any reason. And the only thing you can do is accept it and move on, knowing that many people still like you.
I like you you made two of the best shows ever helluva boss and hazbin hotel and you really put a lot of heart soul and effort into making it plus you have your staff that cares for you as well.
Is the grass throwing related to the trees?
I dont geddit
Iβve never heard of this before
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Is it because βtouching grassβ?
Like⦠touch the grass & then throw it at your enemies? Society! The Patriarchy?
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It's tied to the idea of "touching grass" = Being more active offline/Irl than online. Having gass thrown at her, then, is like getting hit with reality. People care so much about what personality you present online and forget it's a person behind the screen.
Youβd be surprised how many people, liberal, conservative, democrat, and republican really do like you and love your work. Hazbin and Helluva are for EVERYONE to enjoy, as long as they have an open mind and heart.
80% of online discourse is made by ppl who clearly have very little socialization, I dont even mean to be rude about it like this is literally what it is
Iβve only met you once, and even though I was dumb/starstruck the entire time of our interaction, I can tell that youβre a genuinely awesome person to be friends with. π Much love to you, Viv. Ignore the haters as they wonβt change their minds and they donβt matter anyways.
I think it's part misinformation about you, and part people just really don't like you or your work for the sake of it. But dw, a lot of us here online do like you
Which is funny 'cause it's like. nothingburgers. May the first bitch who never said some cringe edgy shit online back on 2012 Tumblr tweet the first callout fr (I know I said some SHIT back then)
People who are genuine are the ones who get all the hate because society expects us to be someone else or to pretend to be someone we are not. People who are genuine, if they have something to say, they will say it to your face - politely.
I'm quite socially awkward and I have Asperger's Syndrome. I was never popular growing up, all I wanted was to get along with others, but they always started yelling at me like I murdered their entire family and the cruelty of children in general only made everything worse π
I heard all of the Vivsucks lore when I joined the Hazbin fandom and then I followed you on Instagram and was like, wait sheβs just a nice girl living her life, shit I wish *I* was having as much fun as she seems to be having π
Lmao sameeee whenever I explain my ~many online controversies~ to people they're so fucking confused by what the issue even is. Even my very reserved acquaintances don't understand it, it's so refreshing
Because normal people have their own problems and priorities than worrying for meaningless shit like certain kind of discourses online. π€·πΌπ€·πΌ
I've been a fan of your work since your zoophobia days, when I watched a comic dub as a kid, and it was the first piece of media I ever wrote a fic for on quotev (god I feel cringe).
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needless to say but we love you and the amazing gift you gave us , itΒ΄s all that matters ^^
I mean everyone is entitled to an opinion, wether itβs justifiable or actually matters though?
Just keep doing what you're doing!
"I created a couple TV shows about gay demons."
Thisβ¦HAPPENSβ¦EVERY TIME!!!
Lmao
But when you ask them to elaborate they just answer with vague shit like:
"Oh well... some... uhm... LGBT people don't like her characters and she sells too many plushies"
Wtf is wrong with people?
You can dislike Vivzie all you want, but stop trying to paint her as some evil "mastermind" smh.
I adore your spiciness and I LOVE your shows, Viv! Hazbin and Helluva give me all the feels and make me laugh, even if I am having a bad day.
BE a successful femme presenting human telling a compelling story in a male dominated entertainment industry that over-values cishet stories?
Keep being you Viv π«Ά youβre doing great work.
Finding someone who likes you for you is always a plus. Someone who can see a person beyond their computer and real time is always a must.
And then his voice actor was my favorite one to meet. π₯Ή
The character is just so precious.
But my reason is your videos actually kept me from committing suicide, cause the day I was gonna do it I saw one of your videos and wanted more, and just never committed so thank you Vivziepop you save my life.β€οΈβ€οΈ
The horror π
βWhy donβt people online like you?β
βI made a popular adult animated series for a niche audience and it got picked up my major studios.β
βAnd people dislike you for this?β
βYeah, the internet is just weirdβ¦β
Social media, toxic gaming, everyone has someone online they hate.
I dont geddit
Iβve never heard of this before
Is
Is it because βtouching grassβ?
Like⦠touch the grass & then throw it at your enemies? Society! The Patriarchy?
I iust
I learned a new idiom today!
Is that something you Californians do to get high? π€¨
I troll for good, I swear!
But like, good gods I need friends. π
People are so fucking weird and bitter for no reason lol
Meant to say, it's weird that people try* π
People are just so awful and for no reason.
The more I Iearn about you, the cooler I think you are.
You're so perfectly imperfect and quite spicy.
Keep being you.
It helps others be more comfortable being themselves.
People block me all the time....
Maybe in just too crass and unsophisticated....
Their loss. I got jokes
From what Iβve seen, despite the conflicts and debates on X, you seem like a genuinely lovely person. Hope my input helps anything.
"Well at least you're true to yourself."
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I tell you, I've got some great friends!
I've had a number of "I think I care too much about ____" epiphanies cause of them & it's fantastic