Optimist: the cup is half full. Pessimist: the cup is half empty. That bald kid in the Matrix: there is no cup. Once you realize that, it is not the cup that is full or empty, but yourself. - ThreadSky

amandaknox.com • 97 days ago

Optimist: the cup is half full.

Pessimist: the cup is half empty.

That bald kid in the Matrix: there is no cup. Once you realize that, it is not the cup that is full or empty, but yourself.

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grandpadavid.bsky.social•97 days ago

Engineer: the cup is 5mm less than twice the size required for its purpose.

schadenfruede.bsky.social•97 days ago

I always thought that the cup was just too big for the job.

amandaknox.com•97 days ago

That's the engineer.

jaydad4.bsky.social•97 days ago

There's many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip.

Not relevant but it’s all I could come up with.

bkellyct.bsky.social•97 days ago

🤯

arch45.bsky.social•97 days ago

Lawyer: that water would completely fill a smaller cup.

filmfan75.bsky.social•97 days ago

Half full or half empty; clearly there's room for more beer in the glass

wreckmasterjay.bsky.social•97 days ago

🤣🤣🤣

emissaryofthedeep.bsky.social•97 days ago

Objectivist: there is a cup that is filled halfway, but its my cup because I saw it first and the governments only job is to shoot people who try their drink from MY cup.

bobbyzee.bsky.social•97 days ago

You’re speaking my language

writersncoffee.bsky.social•97 days ago

No, that would be Sartre

jaybennett1234.bsky.social•97 days ago

🤔

naffnaffbobface.bsky.social•97 days ago

I thought I came up with the answer to this years back - it's situational. If the cup is being filled it's half full. If it's being emptied its half empty. If you happen upon a cup at exactly half and you don't know if it was filled or drained, it's what you next do, add or take, that defines it.

raekerlin.bsky.social•97 days ago

Spot on!

captgh.bsky.social•95 days ago

What happens if the half glass of water is in a black box and you cannot see it? Does it change when you open the box and can see the half glass of water? I want answers or I use AI.

naffnaffbobface.bsky.social•95 days ago

So you have happened upon a glass at exactly half and you don't know if it was filled or drained to get to that status. Nothing about this box setup changes the original supposition that It's what you next do, add or take, that defines it. You add, it was half full. You take and it was half empty.

naffnaffbobface.bsky.social•95 days ago

If you're equating Schrödinger's box, it'd be like if you opened it to find the cat exactly half alive and half dead. The life/death status of the cat is dependent on what you do next, heal or hinder. From what little Quantum I know, I'd say this is more a Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle matter.

ravenmark.bsky.social•97 days ago

Well stated!

snoopbird.bsky.social•97 days ago

So your argument is that the answer is in the process and not the state.

naffnaffbobface.bsky.social•97 days ago

As the current state of the cup is the result of the process of it being filled or emptied that sounds like a reasonable summary.

sockmodel-no1.bsky.social•78 days ago

At least the glass isn't shattered.....

naffnaffbobface.bsky.social•78 days ago

Welcome to the discussion Sock - from a philosophical perspective does it continue to be a glass if it is no longer capable of performing the intended function/s? Would the pieces of the glass you have not just be... pieces of glass?

sockmodel-no1.bsky.social•78 days ago

It could have significant value. Such as best dad or mum in the world or an award. So it's more than just a glass. So even though its primary function ceases. The meaning of the glass could continue to inspire or remind us that someone we are loved.

naffnaffbobface.bsky.social•78 days ago

But does that mean it was simply a glass in the first place? There are many glasses in the world just like it, but this one is mine... And that is just in the immediacy: Glass itself as substance is near timeless, what do those pieces mean when dug up as archaeological artefact in 600 years time...?

sockmodel-no1.bsky.social•77 days ago

If my "No1 Lover in Wiltshire" glass is dug up in 600 years time. It's definitely going to be an archaeological moment to be cherished.

alexrolfe.bsky.social•97 days ago

It would be very weird to happen upon a cup exactly half full and the decide to either add or take from it!

naffnaffbobface.bsky.social•97 days ago

It would be strange, however even a cup left alone would result in a status change given enough time, with either evaporation slowly emptying it, or rain (if outside) adding to it without direct personal intervention :-)

alexrolfe.bsky.social•97 days ago

Hmmm

miksmesses.bsky.social•97 days ago

Ah, but that's ignoring that when you happen upon said cup, it is, at that moment, barring airtight covering, evaporating. Thus, it's always half empty except while actively being filled.
And, are you, by chance, related to a chap called Schrodinger?

infinitelyloopy.bsky.social•97 days ago

Schrödinger’s mocking critique of quantum superposition (a concept since proven correct) isn’t quite that.

Schrödinger’s glass would be this: The glass is simultaneously half full and half empty until it’s observed at which point is resolves to one of those two states.

miksmesses.bsky.social•97 days ago

So...the wave function description of the complete glass system implies that reality combines the full and empty glass?

naffnaffbobface.bsky.social•97 days ago

I did raise this in another response and mentioned rain too, however to explorer further there is also the condition of saturated air where humidity reaches 100% or more and evaporation in that moment can be stunted or stopped... I'd suppose it's still situational but on environmental factors :-)

amandaknox.com•97 days ago

I love that!