Surprise, surprise... Catch-and-release angling harms the fish (who feel pain, as has been clearly established), and those who survive the ordeal are likely to develop "hook shyness" www.umass.edu/news/article... - ThreadSky

annieleymarie.bsky.social • 58 days ago

Surprise, surprise...
Catch-and-release angling harms the fish (who feel pain, as has been clearly established), and those who survive the ordeal are likely to develop "hook shyness"
https://www.umass.edu/news/article/uncovering-hidden-consequences-catch-and-release-sport-fishing

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bluegirl007.bsky.social•58 days ago

This may very well be the most ignorant hing I’ve seen posted today.
How many tax dollars went into the research project?

i-hate-acronyms.bsky.social•58 days ago

Most fish survive catch & release, those that don't become food for turtles, crayfish, and birds. Life is about survival of the fittest. We wouldn't be here if our ancestors hadn't consumed meat, brains, and bone marrow from animals. Plants also react from trimming or cutting. They feel something.

annieleymarie.bsky.social•58 days ago

We wouldn't be here without our entirely 'vegan' earlier ancestors either! Nor will we remain here if we don't sufficiently shift our diets. And yes, gratuitous harm to either plants, non-humans or human animals has no ethical justification!

chuckwhite.bsky.social•58 days ago

Like "hook shyness"s a bad thing.

annieleymarie.bsky.social•58 days ago

It's not a bad thing (although the article implies that it is, for fishing purposes), other than showing stress: it confirms, as it is now well established, that fish feel pain and understandably try to avoid it! https://blueplanetsociety.org/new-studies-suggest-once-and-for-all-that-fish-do-feel-pain/

forestgardens.bsky.social•58 days ago

The MNR figures 20 -30 % die from mishandling as well.
Imagine shooting a deer with an arrow, dragging it towards you, dangling it around, then ripping the arrow out as you toss the deer to the ground.
I hunt and fish, responsibly and with respect for the life I am taking. No sport.

fishfirst.bsky.social•58 days ago

After considerable work on salmon and FRIM (Fishery Related Incidental Mortality), which considers the long-term impacts of C&R fishing; we suggest that the use of C&R as a conservation tool can approach ‘green washing’ unless the mortality associated with C&R is integrated in assessments and mgt.

gspiggott.bsky.social•58 days ago

Fisheries are sensitive to angling pressure?

Whodathunk?

sistermatic.bsky.social•58 days ago

I've always been against C&R, despite being a keen sport fisher myself. I've seen too many fish with barotrauma, hook injuries and worse, handling injuries once landed - all in the name of 'conservation'.

It's harming fish for a sport, not for food.

Far better to enjoy the fish, twice.

moonscar-island.bsky.social•58 days ago

the idea of not eating the fish you catch is so absurd to me. if you don’t kill and eat the fish you catch, then you just harmed a fish for your own enjoyment. however, releasing a fish that is too small or protected while intending to keep the one you catch is fair.

dyerm.bsky.social•57 days ago

Why must other life forms suffer for our 'sport'? If we must have such 'sport' re open the Rome Colosseum where human can 'sport' another human...

davidesdale.bsky.social•57 days ago

I think there is a faint line of difference between our cruelty to animals and cruelty to fellow humans. The "othering" permits all kinds of horrors. Humane education may the most promising route to a saner world.

prairiegirl.bsky.social•57 days ago

I've always thought it was cruel and traumatic to the fish. Also how does it not harm their mouths?

pragmatic-vegan.bsky.social•58 days ago

The mortality rate of catch and release exceeds 80%. Catch & release is a lie created by governent to assuage the concerns of weak minded citizens.

skjelnes.bsky.social•58 days ago

But, hook shyness is preferred over death.

annieleymarie.bsky.social•58 days ago

Understandably! Would we like a hook in our mouth/cheek? Would we like to get killed?

woodsybell.bsky.social•58 days ago

Well, sure, a fish injured during catch and release is at a disadvantage, but "hook shy" might be an aid to future survival. Let's ask fishermen in the Adirondacks about torpedo sized pike whose jaws are lined with fishing lures.

mklinejr.bsky.social•58 days ago

That's why you should eat them when you catch them just like God intended.

plasmaships.bsky.social•58 days ago

I just watched a video yesterday about an affectionate tiger shark who learned to approach a diver for help whenever she had a hook stuck in her mouth. It hurts her to get it out but it hurts more to have it stuck in.

plasmaships.bsky.social•58 days ago

Also this is not an endorsement for keeping fish you catch either. Not fishing unless you actually have to for survival would be better. We evolved to have things called grocery stores that already have plenty of fish that were killed.

annieleymarie.bsky.social•58 days ago

We've evolved to be extremely adaptable to different diets, including plant-exclusive ones!
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/09/seas-stop-eating-fish-fishing-industry-government

cruzankenny.bsky.social•58 days ago

In many small rivers and streams that have banned fishing, native cutthroat trout and brown trout tend to overpopulate and become pygmys.
For the most part, we have thinned out natural predators, and humans are the apex now.

annieleymarie.bsky.social•58 days ago

Wherever we've been forced to step back & leave nature alone - for instance after nuclear accidents in Chernobyl & Fukushima - nature has rebounded and biodiversity increased fast (despite high levels of radiation in those cases). Nature would quickly regain health without us killing everything!

brownestcoat.bsky.social•58 days ago

I'm pretty sure this article just incentivized some fishing game programmer to implement drops in spawn rates unless someone purchases the "chum" in-app purchase.

davidesdale.bsky.social•57 days ago

Thanks for your thoughtful and provocative posts!

alandanielson.bsky.social•58 days ago

My has been calling it wounding for years.
"so you guys going out wounding again today?"
"it's fishing and we let them go"
"so you are wounding the fish"
The fees for licenses pay for most trails, trash removal, out houses, signs, and much more. If you enjoy outdoors thank a hunter or fisherman.

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