Blows my mind that so many pro Ukraine libs cannot possibly connect it's people's struggle for freedom with that of the Palestinians. This country makes me sick to my stomach.
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What’s the connection? Ukraine didn’t invade Russia. In fact Russia invaded Ukraine because it’s convinced that Ukraine is a fake nation that always belonged to Russia.
The idea is that there might have been a coherent Ukraine/Palestine parallel 50 years ago? But Ukraine has been an independent state for even less time than Israel has, so how does that make sense, why is it more legitimate than Israel in defending itself from dissolution?
Israeli nationalism as currently constructed demands the subjugation and destruction of Palestinian identity, just as Russian nationalism as currently constructed demands the subjugation and destruction of Ukrainian identity.
Well that makes sense. But our support of Ukraine is openly, while partly moral, primarily about reigning in Russia’s belligerence out of self-protection, and the same goes for our support of Israel. That abstract of a comparison isn’t front of mind for “libs”.
Okay. Hamas invaded Israel because their society doesn’t think Israel is a real country and the land belongs to them, they struggled and failed in their efforts to topple and overtake Israel, like Russia has Ukraine, and the only reason swap aggressor parallels is race-brained Marxism.
Do you find that true in your experience? My progressive/liberal friends are vehemently pro Palestinian as well as pro Ukraine. Perhaps not so true among Democratic Members of Congress, though.
Take a look at the majority of the NAFO accounts. They'll condemn Russia's war crimes, but openly cheer on Israel committing the exact same atrocities.
Yup. Just look at all of those NAFO accounts, especially on the other site. They'll condemn Russia for a war crime, but turn around and cheer on Israel for committing literally the exact same war crime. The number of them I've reported for celebrating children being murdered is disgusting.
Yes but not really. I think it's more about ideological position. Some libs (at least here in Europe) are/were strong supporters of syrians opposing Assad because he was supported by Putin
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