Just to point out how ridiculous the MAGA claim that Europe has social services and healthcare because America does our defence is... the first European public healthcare systems were mapped out in the 1860s, when they were still figuring out that slavery is bad. - ThreadSky

derparrot.bsky.social • 3 days ago

Just to point out how ridiculous the MAGA claim that Europe has social services and healthcare because America does our defence is... the first European public healthcare systems were mapped out in the 1860s, when they were still figuring out that slavery is bad.

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henriplihtari.bsky.social•3 days ago

Also, examples like Finland do have public healthcare and a robust defence.

gwenithmillie.bsky.social•3 days ago

Also during the cold war europeans spent 4-6% of GDP on defense and still had these services.

ruisequeira.bsky.social•2 days ago

ruisequeira.bsky.social•3 days ago

The US spends more per capita on healthcare that Europe. It is not our fault that they're so inefficient

yummyfrankfurters.bsky.social•3 days ago

Also per capital spending is higher, it's outrageous how bad the US is at this. GreAteSt cOunTry iN tHe WorLd https://www.oecd.org/en/data/indicators/health-spending.html?oecdcontrol-00b22b2429-var3=2024

yummyfrankfurters.bsky.social•3 days ago

*capita

yummyfrankfurters.bsky.social•3 days ago

Also, they spend more GDP on healthcare than we do.

missdefecation.bsky.social•3 days ago

“When they were still figuring out that slavery is bad” France, Belgium, Portugal, UK all maintained Slavery in African colonies well into the 20th century, my grandmother used to tell us stories of slaves her family owned during french rule, not a good point to hold that over Americans

yummyfrankfurters.bsky.social•3 days ago

This is not how that went. The Europeans combatted slavery in Africa in the 20th century after they abolished it in the 19th. I think you are confusing the European nations for the Arab.

missdefecation.bsky.social•2 days ago

I’m not confusing the two, and i suppose you’re right, the European scramble for Africa was a noble conquest to abolish chattel slavery and replace with the new and improved forced labor, while keeping previous slaves to their masters for old times sake🥹

scrivener45.bsky.social•2 days ago

Then paying up for your own defense should be no problem. Given the lack of growth and tech creativity in the Euro Zone I am betting MAGA has a point.

windlowe.bsky.social•2 days ago

MAGA is just jealous the US spent more on healthcare than anyone but still doesn't cover everyone. Instead of tackling the health care industry, they choose to cut health care on the lower end instead.

theseer1983.bsky.social•3 days ago

Americans are now changing their minds about slavery again...

daledooper.bsky.social•3 days ago

Their *not* universal healthcare is many times more expensive per capita than any of the mos generous european systems. Because of unregulated insurance companies and drastically inflated prices by hospitals. US could have universal healthcare for 1/3 of the current cost to fed budget easily.

lmt7.bsky.social•3 days ago

Even that gordfosaken son of a PruSSian state Bismarck had figured out social security by the end of XIX century.

But there was one country that practiced serfdom till 1864 and didn't had any social security till well into XX century.

Maybe that RuSSian pivot has something to it...

danielstrawbs.bsky.social•3 days ago

Oh no, us Europeans aren’t going to have enough money to buy american products any more.

Shame.

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