This thread shows why we "Democratic party" won't win future elections.. the "lefts" inability to have reason when discussing the middle east. Particularly Gaza-Israel conflict will continue to divide the party & push away center/right leaning voters who agree on issues like healthcare, economy, etc
trump and his croniescare treasonous and should all be taken out for their part in aiding putin and russia since 1987.
I had read years ago that he had been involved in Russia with mitch McConnell
Also pushing Russia agenda.
Zionists like Oded Lipshitz, a peace activist who helped Gazan patients seek help in Israeli hospitals. Kidnupped by Hamas on october 7th. Murdered by Hamas in captivity. But he's the terrorist, right?
Zionism as a movement is about 150 years old. Its roots in jewish culture go even further. It includes assholes like Ben Gvir & Kahana, but also wholesome people and orgs like Oded, Ehad Ha'am, Brit Shalom, Peace Now... Pretending like this side of zionism doesn't exist makes the assholes stronger.
Wasn't he murdered by Israeli bombs? And the more than 60,000 victims on the Palestinian side, do they count as fake, just like the hundreds of thousands of victims over the last 70 years?
What's the dead baby count for IDF compared to Hamas? Not a supporter of Hamas, but I sure as hell know who's terrorising who there, and it's the one with over 10,000 children bombed and shot in the last couple of years.
Were the IDF strangling toddlers with their bare hands too? Like the Bibas children? Not a supporter of IDF but I sure as fuck know how to make a distinction.
So there's evidence of this or is it the same as the beheaded babies lie that the Israeli media pushed out that even Biden had to admit he'd seen no evidence of? Because I'll bet it's the second one. The Israeli government lies to commit genocide. They've been caught numerous times.
No a supporter of the IDF, but this is a dumb argument. At least 1.5M German civilians died of allies actions in WWII (as much as 3M according to some estimates), Compared to 12,100 US citizens. And every argument you make to explain why this doesn't translate to "US were the bad guys" applies here.
What are you on about mate? Didn't mention America did I? Do genocidal Zionists have a script and you just copied the wrong line? Look for the one that justifies bombing children and hospitals, I'm sure you've got one on there.
I don't justify any of that.
Even though Hamas did and still does intentionally use hospitals, schools and UN facilities. It is still wrong to attack these places. But ignoring Hamas use of them, like UN and human rights groups did, is a great way to increase the chances of them being attacked.
You got it quite wrong, but keep on informing yourself with the propaganda backed by the biggest news corporations. You know, those same billionaires that made a new king to America. Not to the USA, to be clear. Israel is the US/UK backed terrorist state.
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Labeling Zionists as terrorists will get the centrists' panties in a bunch since the establishment Democrats walk hand in hand with them, with many even labeling themselves as such. Biden proudly wore his Zionist label, so much so that it took down his administration.
Labeling a peace activist and victim of the october 7th massacre, Oded Lipshitz (RIP), "a terrorist" doesn't get my panties in a bunch. It gets my fingers in a fist at your stupid face.
Typical actions from settlers. There are victims, and there are terrorists...on both sides. Genocide by BiBi and his IDF is factual. Don't like the truth? That's your issue, not mine. Zionists do not belong in Palestine.
Jews belong in the land of Israel/Palestine. No matter how you call it. So do Palestinians.
I'm a zionist jew. So was Oded. We both support Palestinian right of statehood, self determination, and liberty. You deny jewish history, culture and ethnicity. which makes you an antisemite.
All are a direct result of US govt policies in the region. Actually, in the case of the Taliban, Al-Qaida, ISlL, & Hamas, the US & its close allies played a direct role in creating them. Hizbullah was born as a direct result of the constant Israeli military attacks on Lebanon. None are like MAGA. 🤔
The Taliban took control of Afghanistan long before US Intervention there, subjugating women, not allowing girls to be educated, & slaughtering Afghan civilians who refused to comply. Intentionally slaughtering civilians is terrorism, no matter who’s doing it. Your take here is ridiculous.
Russia & the US had not fought their proxy war in Afghanistan the Taliban likely would have had no cause to exist & what they did would not have happened.
Russia invaded Afghanistan in the late 70’s/80’s, the US helped arm the Mujahideen fighters, especially with Stinger missiles, & trained them. Russia was slaughtering Afghans. So you’re excusing the Taliban for their extremist, murderous takeover? Women have no rights at all? Learn some History. 🙄
No. Not excusing anything. The region was a part of the Great Game. Soviets vs the UK + US. The US sold weapons to Pakistan in the 50s to fight Afghanistan over borders the British Raj drew, & this pushed Afghanistan over to the Soviets. Then Pakistan pushed back. And then revolution 1.
Pakistan & the US aided Islamist rebels against leaders who sought Soviet help, which = Soviet takeover & war. This militarised the nation, while oppression & chaos saw fundamentalism grow. Afghanistan, pawn of empires was made vulnerable to the Taliban, whose leaders were US armed Mujahideen. 2.
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I had read years ago that he had been involved in Russia with mitch McConnell
Also pushing Russia agenda.
3 Percenters
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The list of scum is endless 👿
There's a clear distinction.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_2024_Al-Jawni_School_attack
Even though Hamas did and still does intentionally use hospitals, schools and UN facilities. It is still wrong to attack these places. But ignoring Hamas use of them, like UN and human rights groups did, is a great way to increase the chances of them being attacked.
Do you know how long it will be to build up a team? Not long because Phoenix is planning to take my Tucson Roadrunners! 😭
they sound more like a gay night club band than a terror group though
I'm a zionist jew. So was Oded. We both support Palestinian right of statehood, self determination, and liberty. You deny jewish history, culture and ethnicity. which makes you an antisemite.
Are you a white american? Why don't you go home to Europe?
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Israel - Israel/USA
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Head out of the sand....
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trump and his assclown crony elon musk need to be brought up on crimes against humanity.
Fuck trump.
Fuck musk.
Fuck everything they stand for.