I wonder if the off-the-record bit was some version of "The left and liberals were right about Trump" -- and it's important to her not to admit that in public.
The true scandal of Deborah Lipstadt is not her view of Trump but as a Holocaust historian sitting in Joe BIden's White House, and by her own account talking to everybody with influence, she didn't resign when it became clear Israel was committing a genocide and Biden and Blinken were complicit.
"That's not what this country is all about"? As long as enough people do nothing more than this sort of mealy-mouthed, cowardly equivocation, that's exactly what this country is all about.
I think if you felt like the Biden administration was lying their faces off to us everyday, denied the awful feeling that they were more than ok helping ID protestors then letting Israel threaten, smear them, didn’t care cops smashed heads, etc …
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/leading-us-jewish-groups-denounce-trump-administrations-campus-crackdown/
Chotiner might have noted the Jewish groups engaged in campus Gaza protests & then asked her who specifically she was speaking for. Miriam Adelson?
This was Biden’s advisor for this & Jesus