The insane thing about trying “this won’t lower egg prices!” messaging is that it buys into the transparently ridiculous fallacy that people who voted for trump and claimed they did so expecting him to lower grocery prices were being sincere. - ThreadSky

edburmila.bsky.social • 29 days ago

The insane thing about trying “this won’t lower egg prices!” messaging is that it buys into the transparently ridiculous fallacy that people who voted for trump and claimed they did so expecting him to lower grocery prices were being sincere.

Reposted from Brandon Friedman

Four examples of Democratic messaging since yesterday. I know which one I'm supporting. And voting for.

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elkmovie.bsky.social•29 days ago

I don't think you can use it to attack Trump's policies, I do think you can use it to show voters how much the media misled them during the election

marspidermonkey.bsky.social•29 days ago

It’s the exact same nonsense of “that wasn’t a Nazi salute, it was just an awkward gesture!”

sheilagee.bsky.social•29 days ago

I get what you’re saying but there were a good amt of voters who honestly voted for him bc of their own financial circumstances. It’s good to know that there’s an entire population who don’t tune into politics bc they are too busy tryna keep afloat. Having phone banked & canvassed I’ve to them. 1/2

sheilagee.bsky.social•29 days ago

2/2 Check out Zohran Mamdani who’s running for NYC mayor and his videos. He asked several people (mostly of color) who they voted for and a majority voted for T***p bc of the economy (their bottom line). Est dems lost their connection with actual working class and were paying for it now.

e-grandmotherette.bsky.social•29 days ago

I feel like this is a constant issue in discussing the WHY behind all of this. To the question “why did people vote Trump?” most people will answer for MAGA when I’m really asking why non-MAGA did so. And that’s the egg answer.

sidewalkslam.bsky.social•29 days ago

Exactly. I definitely don't mind going to trump voters and saying "gee egg prices sure did get lower, huh" when they're in tears, but every trump voter who said they were voting for trump because of high prices or no tax on tips was looking for a euphemism for "I'm pissed black people have jobs"

zzzzarf.bsky.social•29 days ago

People said they voted for Trump because of “the economy” because that was signaled in the media as an acceptable reason not to vote for Biden. People voted for Trump because they’re racist.

metanautics.bsky.social•29 days ago

A lot of people really were mad about the economy.

zzzzarf.bsky.social•29 days ago

Capitalism is designed to profit winners at the expense of losers, a fact which no Trump voter is opposed to. They’re mad about wage growth for the bottom sector of workers, which upsets the “natural order”. They don’t care how little they can afford, as long as the people below them can afford less

metanautics.bsky.social•29 days ago

Maybe some people do think this way, but a substantial portion of people who either voted for Trump or stayed home in disgust did so simply because life was getting less affordable for them and they didn't like it.

zzzzarf.bsky.social•29 days ago

So they voted for the man who’s stated policies of mass deportation and tariffs were guaranteed to make things less affordable? You can’t credit voters with a legitimate economic rationale for their vote if it results in the complete opposite of that rationale. It just means they’re full of shit.

metanautics.bsky.social•29 days ago

I don't think most people have a good understanding of how those policies would affect the economy. What they saw was, Trump has some kind of plan, whereas Biden / Harris just say the economy is fine and they're not going to do anything different.

boweaver11.bsky.social•29 days ago

Exactamundo

computermuse.bsky.social•29 days ago

I'm sad to report this, but many mindless voters continue to believe Republicans are better for the economy, sure they may also be some form of racists but Americans do seem to care about money in lieu of all else.

3fecta.bsky.social•29 days ago

The surveys on the economy back this up. Ever since November, the GOP voters now say the economy is awesome.
They are not going to be demanding cheap eggs or else anytime soon.

capemaydave.bsky.social•29 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/capemaydave.bsky.social/post/3lgikqwgpbc26

norbizness.bsky.social•29 days ago

It's like seeing an octogenarian aunt get hip to some 12 year old memes on Facebook.

susipsych.bsky.social•29 days ago

I am on the verge of muting freaking "eggs"

illcaesar.bsky.social•29 days ago

I think it's effective when you're as in-your-face as possible with the consequences when directly talking to Trump supporters.

"How does eliminating research for cancer treatment I'll need in ten years lower the price of eggs?"

"How does trans women being raped in prison lower the price of eggs?"

illcaesar.bsky.social•29 days ago

Specifically, in front of other people. They'll never stop supporting him. You need to get other people to recognize not just Trumpism but Trumpers themselves as lost causes. The sooner they do the sooner they connect with people who are politically active on thenother side of the spectrum.

illcaesar.bsky.social•29 days ago

I mean this IRL for what it's worth. This is pointless behavior online. Just a circlejerk in our respective echo chambers.

zachcockrum.bsky.social•29 days ago

I agree that focusing on egg prices is missing the forest for the trees but to the overall point of the post, it's saying AOC's message is the most resonant? But the message he is a dangerous authoritarian was how Harris tried to close the race and it failed.

edburmila.bsky.social•29 days ago

Idk seems likely it was just accessible, having been primed through 2 years of constant repetition, and sounded like a better thing to say to a reporter than “Ethnonationalism and xenophobia really appeal to me”

mylifelesshusk.bsky.social•29 days ago

He made two promises: “I will hurt the people we’re blaming for the problem,” and “I will fix the problem.” They knew he’d keep the important one.

edburmila.bsky.social•29 days ago

simultaneous and true:

1. People were mad about some economic things that were real, not imaginary

2. People who voted for Trump will shrug when he does nothing about (1), not turn on him or even notice.

apurbachakraborty.bsky.social•29 days ago

Mainly they won’t notice because the things they were mad about weren’t really true.

amyclukey.bsky.social•29 days ago

Or eggs will go on sale for a week and they'll say "look, he did it!"

stopcallingmefrank.bsky.social•29 days ago

MAGA does not want egg prices to go up; they do not want egg prices to go down; they do not want egg prices to stay the same. They just want Trump egg prices.

amyclukey.bsky.social•29 days ago

I will not rest until every grocery store has a Trump Tower of Eggs.

stopcallingmefrank.bsky.social•29 days ago

The tower will give an impression of masculinity, uniformity, monumentality, solidity, and other values to inspire the volk.

frankgrimesiv.bsky.social•29 days ago

Democrats need to drop all concerns for appealing to Trump voters. They are lost. And trying to bring them back makes them actively push further away. Democrats win by energizing their base and the people inclined to vote for good policy. They failed to do that in 2024. And continue to fail now.

lukehaines85.bsky.social•29 days ago

It's been pointed out plenty before, but plenty of people at Far Right rallies turn up with AR-15s and all kinds of related toys. That shit isn't cheap. People who can spend $1500 on a rifle aren't in poverty.

amyclukey.bsky.social•29 days ago

Nearly a decade into Trumpian politics and bougie white people still want to pretend that his voters are poor white trash.

lukehaines85.bsky.social•29 days ago

Always worth reminding everyone that statistically, it was Middle Management who voted for the Nazis. The poor weren't conned. The people who had SOME money got scared they'd lose it.

malicae.bsky.social•29 days ago

People have been pointing out MAGA hypocrisy for 10 years thinking that somehow this time will be different, this time they'll care. Just stop. They don't give a fuck. They're fighting to win, while we whine about gamesmanship. John Oliver had a whole shtick about it, and they still don't get it!

historyned.bsky.social•29 days ago

People are going to be really mad when they figure out that ethnic cleansing won’t solve problems with ethics in gaming journalism

polkabone.bsky.social•29 days ago

They were mad, but most of that anger is grossly misdirected.

ahjohnson.bsky.social•29 days ago

I think *most* Trump voters will shrug, I think a meaningful percent will sour to him over this and other issues. Feel like the existence of Soft Trump voters is glossed over too often, they’re real and their brains may be ice rink smooth but they’re winnable!

jacketdan.bsky.social•29 days ago

People voted for AOC and Trump in her district! That has to be a winnable voter!

frankgrimesiv.bsky.social•29 days ago

Democrats need to be more concerned with the people who didn't vote for AOC because they stayed home because Kamala Harris and the Democratic establishment decided to campaign on "nothing will change at all from the unsustainable status quo that led to Biden having no chance."

manisnotabird.bsky.social•29 days ago

I’ve seen the same thing so many times: someone will say something true about the marginal/swing Trump voter and someone else will think they’ve debunked it by saying something true about the average Trump voter.

noahafrank.bsky.social•29 days ago

Yeah, this. The biggest trap I’ve seen people fall into since November is declaring single reasons why things happened, or trying to define huge, diverse blocs by single metrics. There are certainly people who voted for him who will be genuinely surprised when things get noticeably worse

shaidorsai.bsky.social•29 days ago

Well, as history shows us, the Stab-In-The-Egg-Prices narrative is powerful

alexjimithing.bsky.social•29 days ago

It boils down to, ‘I voted for Trump because of grocery prices (and I like that he allows me to blame grocery prices on minority demographics).’

livingonferenginar.bsky.social•29 days ago

it's glib, Facinelli, and takes no effort. Everyone except AOC is just posting adverts that say "I'm still here" to keep their job. AOCnis the only one interested in real pushback

zython.bsky.social•29 days ago

I mean, obviously not. But I see it as a snarky way of laying that bare.

freealonzo.bsky.social•29 days ago

High egg prices is a polite way of saying I don't like it that "those people" (brown, gay, women, etc) get the same things I do.

mrgoh.bsky.social•29 days ago

I read most egg price posting to be ironic acknowledgment that Trump voters claiming their vote was based on inflation were spouting hot bullshit.

markpaglia.bsky.social•29 days ago

If you actually wanted to enrage Trump voters over egg prices, you'd have to make them think that eggs are cheaper for minorities.

josephcappadonia.bsky.social•29 days ago

Yeah, need to drop that noise. It was never about prices.

metanautics.bsky.social•29 days ago

The egg thing specifically was overblown but sticker shock due to inflation was definitely a big factor dragging down Biden's approval. If food prices do continue to rise I don't think it will be good for Trump.

slimeweasel.bsky.social•29 days ago

People saying that all trump voters are racists simply means that you can't win. It's self defeating, at a certain point you have to analyze what you can control and run on fixing that. If people don't feel constantly screwed they don't grasp for scapegoats, whether they're racist or not.

metanautics.bsky.social•29 days ago

Yup, among other things a major problem with it is it doesn't provide any practical steps forward.

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