This is a population that couldn't figure out that a 1/3 lb. burger is bigger than a 1/4 lb. burger. And you expect them to understand $2k today is better than $8k tomorrow?
Private insurance lobby groups are too powerful; it will never happen!
I lived in the US for 1 year. Other than the Washington Post, WSJ, NY Times, other US papers have limited news of the outside world. Most Americans I met did not even know the name of Canada's capital, their neighbour.
The key to this is that a significant amount of Americans simply don’t believe other people have the right to be healthy. It’s not ‘how’ do we pay for it, it’s ’why should we’. A result of our toxic individualism.
Because a significant amount pay no medical insurance premiums from their take home pay as their employer covers them and their families.
Yes, it's all factored in but like most people everywhere they only care about the gross, nett, and tax on their payslip.
Of course. The graphic suggests Americans pay $8000 but of course many don't pay that amount themselves. I doubt pay would increase by an average $8000 if taxes went up by an average $2000, but even if it did there are so many people obsessed with low taxes and refuse to think about anything else.
You mean there are still employers that pay 100% health insurance costs for employees and their families? Last time I was employed, they only covered a portion, and i paid the rest. Then, when I was self-employed, I paid $750 a month, not including deductible and copays. 🙄
I disagree. Since Citizens United, lobbyists have had a stranglehold on our elected officials. Polls show a majority of Americans want universal health care.
And that goes with everything Trump is dismantling. In Florida Desantis wants Floridians to pay no property taxes which means that public services will be privatized and extremely expensive more so than the property tax that they are paying.
We lived in england from 1990-1992. We could not believe that our healthcare was free!! Coming home to america was such a let down. No one here gets it! We have been brainwashed in america to believe we do not deserve care!
I have tried to explain this to my maga minded relatives for decades. They can't process it. The other big sticking point is they don't want to pay for "freeloaders". It's kind of funny, if you stand way back, like on Jupiter.
Elizabeth Warren almost got there in 2020. But she couldn't bring herself to say that taxes would go up, even though health care premiums would go down waaaaaayy more. Literally, all she had to do was draw it out on a chalkboard and show the substitutions. So here we are.
Not the point. The point is that our have to physically SHOW people that you replace a large health insurance amount with a smaller tax amount. They can't get there on their own. THAT'S the lightbukb moment.
Yep. There are maybe three politicians who really push for universal healthcare. Some Ds murmur a weak "Yeah," while the GOP fights it. Why? They are wholly owned by those industries.
Why doesn't the media cover this? Because those ridiculous ubiquitous 90-second drug ads pay their bills.
A family friend many years ago became a county commissioner in AL. He was a good, honest, decent man who really wanted to serve people. He lasted one term & got out. He said he could not find ways to work in the system, because the system itself is too corrupt. If it's that corrupt at that level...
Oh, I worked for a customs broker for a couple of years, and we had to convert every metric measurement to feet and pounds when filling out the US customs paperwork. Stupid waste of time.
I pay $2000+/yr for liability car insurance. I have not had a car crash in 40 years.
I pay $0 for health insurance. I pay cash when needed, which is rare.
I would gladly pay higher taxes for universal health care. (Not universal health insurance-robber barons).
That, and...convincing certain people to not be racist. They'd rather pass on universal health care if it means that Black people benefit from it, too.
All I know is that before I went on Medicare, my medical insurance as a self-employed person cost me around $750/month. That's not counting the copays and deductibles. Considering that I rarely visited the Doctor, and only took one generic Rx, that seemed excessive.
We have to convince enough people that 'people getting stuff for free' is part of a healthy society, is not bad, and is not worth being so angry about that you're willing to suffer to prevent it.
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I lived in the US for 1 year. Other than the Washington Post, WSJ, NY Times, other US papers have limited news of the outside world. Most Americans I met did not even know the name of Canada's capital, their neighbour.
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Yes, it's all factored in but like most people everywhere they only care about the gross, nett, and tax on their payslip.
Voting against your own interests is part of the core Republican platform.
Why doesn't the media cover this? Because those ridiculous ubiquitous 90-second drug ads pay their bills.
I pay $0 for health insurance. I pay cash when needed, which is rare.
I would gladly pay higher taxes for universal health care. (Not universal health insurance-robber barons).
Duhhh... let me check what fox says
Fox says trump thinks 2 is bigger than 8
You're fake news!