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giantbrain.co.uk • 34 days ago

This post contains everythign wrong with "content creators"

https://boardgamewire.com/index.php/2025/01/27/its-important-to-us-that-we-find-new-cmon-fans-all-the-time-cmon-hires-board-game-youtube-channel-man-vs-meeples-ceo-to-run-its-global-marketing-campaigns/

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withoutpause.bsky.social•34 days ago

I'm old enough to remember when it was just Jeremy going by the name of Drakkenstrike. I haven't paid attention to the channel in a long time. Jeremy was always far better at production than he was reviewing. Some of his early ones were just awkward. Hopefully David steps down.

giantbrain.co.uk•34 days ago

David says this in the post

“When it comes to CMON products, I don’t think we need to adjust much at all. Like I said, I’ve been a fan of many CMON games since [Death May Die], and I don’t see any reason to mask my feelings on that front"

giantbrain.co.uk•34 days ago

If you can't see why continuing to cover the games of the company that pays you a wage for a full-time job on your channel is a huge ethcial minefield then you are a lost cause. Is being paid by them not enough? Have you not succeeded at that point?

jamieragwort.bsky.social•34 days ago

It also makes it difficult to cover games that are in competition with CMON games.

giantbrain.co.uk•34 days ago

That's an excellent point. It is just an ethical no-no.

boardgamefeast.bsky.social•34 days ago

But disclosing a relationship is a magic get out of bias free card right, right?

weekswriter.bsky.social•34 days ago

The problem is that too many board game *consumers* have actually *embraced* this conflict of interest, as if a YouTuber reviewer is just a Nascar driver who's lucked into some sponsorships.

BTW, @danthurot.bsky.social wrote an excellent piece on it: https://spacebiff.com/2024/08/20/talking-about-games-18/

weekswriter.bsky.social•34 days ago

There is a constant struggle to stay upright, and *that's the way it should be.*

Along the way, a fatalist attitude has taken root: if you can't perfectly control entanglement, then let it run wild. Let's be relativists.

But we can't afford it. *These lines existed for our own protection.*

weekswriter.bsky.social•34 days ago

Protocols existed for *all* our sakes, public and reporter alike! We made them because the first generation of this field found out how dangerous a bought reporter can be!

We have to rediscover them all over again because we thought our predecessors were fuddy duddies?

These are *our* firewalls!

anarchytabletop.bsky.social•34 days ago

I think that it’s a matter of degrees. If your livelihood (not a few bucks or review copies) comes from a company, it seems to me you are a marketer for that company. I don’t know that anyone can manage that level of bias.

But some talk like any form of payment or goodwill is unmanageable. 🤷‍♀️

zombzilla.bsky.social•34 days ago

In my years of watching Man vs Meeple, which probably stopped 2 years ago, I always thought their content was promotional. Never an unbiased review.

giantbrain.co.uk•34 days ago

Was it explicit that it was promotional? My experience of their channel is that it isn't.

boardsandswords.com•34 days ago

Yeah I get it, I pointed out years ago that having companies pledge to content creator Kickstarters (TDT for instance) was a huge ethical red flag

giantbrain.co.uk•34 days ago

Yeah the Kickstarters and crowdfunders for channels that include promos provided by companies is so off the reservation ethically that I don't have words for it.

gonz008.bsky.social•34 days ago

I mean, I've always seen MvM as just paid kickstarter previews/trailers. I never really saw them as reviewers. Is anyone really shocked?

giantbrain.co.uk•34 days ago

Not shocked, but still worth calling out.

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