There's just something viscerally horrifying about knowing that the fundamental and underlying stability that I have taken for granted as a citizen in a developed democracy is under threat and no longer guaranteed is really something
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This is the dread I felt on election night and for the week after, was able to push down for the holidays and with some therapy, and now it’s here and it really is bad
My brain would literally break when I spoke to people I liked who said things would be basically the same no matter who won. Our realities were so far apart that I was going to sound insane if I tried to explain the actual consequences of him winning.
this past summer I was asked by a colleague (who I once would have called a friend) "what are you so worried about if trump wins?" and it has resonated in my mind ever since.
I really didn't know how to respond; anything close to the reality of what was coming would have made me sound hysterical.
Shortly after the election I was telling my brother about these sorts of things that are already coming to pass and was aware that I sounded very alarmist. I wouldn’t have unloaded like that if it was any one but my brother
The only Trump supporters I know are all of my dad’s brothers and one of his sisters, who I assume got it as divine balance for my dad avoiding the Trump gene.
I've been doing a lot of not talking lately. Including to people I care about. I was going to visit my grandmother this year & honestly I don't know if I can bear to do it after she insisted to me & my father that we'd see, Trump would fix all our nation's terrible problems
I have a couple who I actually care about. We basically avoid politics. Now I just feel like I have to wait for them to finally get it on their own. They are smart guys so will see what’s happening soon enough
I didn't meet my now-brother in law for nearly eight months after i started dating his sister because his then-wife was a real crockpot Qanon antivax type and my dad had nearly died of COVID and my then-gf was worried I'd cause a fight
luckily they aren't together anymore and the BIL is chill
I think the modal outcome is we muddle through in the dumbest possible way through the dumbest possible events but like Major Historical Inflection Point is very much upon us and I really don't like that
yeah, that quote from Gandalf about "so do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide" is a lot more soothing onscreen than it is in real life
probably the 80th or 90th percentile bad outcome of this still has us walking out in four years with something that is recognizably a democratic government with the same constitution and those aren't panic odds but also *holy shit*
yeah i can't bring myself to panic about this, mostly because i think that would irretrievably damage my mental state and i have people i need to stay resolute for
Yeah, that's about where I am. I think the modal outcome is basically that Trump steals the copper wiring from the country, then either doesn't run because his brain is too melted or loses in 2028.
...the ~8% chance of a military coup or fascist state is still REALLY ALARMING.
I think any change to the constitution within four years is probably for the worse, but yes on the ten-year horizon we will need to restructure things significantly
though the asymmetric ability to burn credibility and destroy institutions is a real problem in the long term I am not sure there is a solution to. maybe entropy always wins.
The biggest horror you will face is the utter blankness in those around you as you try to explain the gravity of it all. The good days, the boom days, they were a capitalist illusion. You were still just a peasant in a feudal state. So very brittle with climate and epidemic tolls.
I think that underlying stability is gone. We are going to go through it and however it turns out, it won’t be the status quo ante of 2024. I’m hopeful that we can overcome this due to how bad things will get, but it will be a different world, and it needs to be so this never happens again.
We basically need this to force a political realignment and that is going to take a mass movement. The damage that’s being done is going to make that possible but yeah, it can go in a number of directions.
You no longer have the right to a meaningful vote, you no longer have the right to freedom of speech, you no longer have the right to exist as an independent entity if you are a woman, you no longer have the right to exist if you are a minority.
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I really didn't know how to respond; anything close to the reality of what was coming would have made me sound hysterical.
you do realize this is all on you, yes?
no amount of walmart snark is gonna project that
but liberal trash just like you for sure
luckily they aren't together anymore and the BIL is chill
...the ~8% chance of a military coup or fascist state is still REALLY ALARMING.
"of what use was the rule," etc., etc.
People sense the impending climate apocalypse, and react to it in bizarre ways.
I just wish more voters could have felt this *before* they chose it…and not arrogantly shrugged off the concerns of those who did.
America is now fascist
America is nazi