but that question wouldn't work anyway...some trans people have the parts that match their gender identity. There's really no one question to sum up gender or sex neatly like this. I think the government should just stop tracking sex entirely. You can ID without that. - ThreadSky

starrceline.bsky.social • 99 days ago

but that question wouldn't work anyway...some trans people have the parts that match their gender identity.

There's really no one question to sum up gender or sex neatly like this.

I think the government should just stop tracking sex entirely. You can ID without that.

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ianmmc.bsky.social•99 days ago

That is very true. I guess my understanding is that in the “bathroom battles” those who ignore that trans people exist are ultimately focused on external anatomy. I wasn’t being mindful of AMAB/AFAB who’ve transitioned and are facing demagoguery starting with sports participation. Please pardon me

ianmmc.bsky.social•99 days ago

I was also approaching the line of thought from the perspective of “What would most cis folks — especially those spreading transphobia — absolutely object to if their gender identity was called into question?”

sanwil.bsky.social•98 days ago

How many women who are not trans will 'need' inspecting by the genitalia police & will it be a coincidence that many women who 'need' inspecting are lovely and 'shapely'? I think not. They may become outraged then, but at that point it's too late - they've yielded to the fascist state.

weel.bsky.social•98 days ago

The thing is, there is no logical conclusion, and that’s kinda the point. The point is to mire trans people in a tangle of contradictory rules and expectations so we can be blamed no matter what.

wikisteff.bsky.social•98 days ago

Exactly.

You are guilty of something by virtue of being you, and then the state can capriciously or actively enforce the law.

Just a total breakdown in the rule of law.

weel.bsky.social•98 days ago

There is no single piece of evidence that settles the question they’re asking in all cases. There cannot be, because there is no such thing as birth sex; only a bunch of different correlates of it that usually but not always go hand in hand.

weel.bsky.social•98 days ago

Anyway, the big question here is what happens if your assigned sex at birth is A and every piece of documentation you have access to says B. In theory, you’d just put A on the form and everyone would disregard the mismatch. In practice… that’s what we may find out if this isn’t enjoined soon.

weel.bsky.social•98 days ago

And this problem isn’t really changed at all by the existence of an additional piece of evidence in one’s pants, which may also be a mismatch in a whole bunch of different ways.

aidapsibr.bsky.social•98 days ago

And that's wrong unfortunately. It's based on Nazi ideology which didn't give a shit about external anatomy when they killed people.

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