This is why I think it's important to say 'generative AI' or 'genAI' etc when complaining about fully automated luxury plagiarism machines. A lot of AI and machine learning is good! It benefits genAI companies and enthusiasts if, when you say 'AI sucks', they can pretend you mean this stuff too. - ThreadSky

abeewords.bsky.social • 117 days ago

This is why I think it's important to say 'generative AI' or 'genAI' etc when complaining about fully automated luxury plagiarism machines. A lot of AI and machine learning is good! It benefits genAI companies and enthusiasts if, when you say 'AI sucks', they can pretend you mean this stuff too.

Reposted from Hetan Shah

Using an AI tool, one additional case of cancer was spotted per 1,000 women screened. Crucially this was without increasing false positives - seems an excellent result
www.theguardian.com/society/2025...

Comments

colossalwave4270.bsky.social•116 days ago

People should use AI the right way, which is for medical purposes, like detecting cancer, but not to take people's jobs away, or for creating shitty images, music, and bullshit covers.

lunchbox17.bsky.social•116 days ago

Counterpoint: you do not need to jump on the "A lot of AI is good!" bandwagon because one study showed a minor but significant improvement thru careful application of ML. This is what most CS ppl have always said the application of ML is: to do a bit better than extant algos w/fine-tuned data inputs

lunchbox17.bsky.social•116 days ago

Just broadly saying "AI is good/AI can be good" justifies the existing market being pushed wherein AI is pushed onto consumers to harvest their personal data, replace laborers & automate things like insurance denials that cause large-scale harm. We need to push back against that, not condone it!

fuckmelikea.dog•116 days ago

We have a lot of AI in a lot of stuff today. Just because you inherently believe all AI is bad doesn't mean you hadn't seen it in use.

Most notable example being AI that helped animators save time by filling in gaps with lining and color fill, especially with how that opens accessibility.

fuckmelikea.dog•116 days ago

AI can be used for good and another example is text recognition programs that can scan documents and/or then transliterate them for those who need tools, especially if it's in other languages. Especially given how it helps break a barrier down.

fuckmelikea.dog•116 days ago

Just because you didn't see entirely all but 1 good example doesn't mean they don't exist and it's worthwhile to do more research on the subject to formulate a better opinion.

If you use Google assistant or Siri for any needs, congrats, you use AI! Something meant to make your life more accessible.

fuckmelikea.dog•116 days ago

I get where you're coming from but it comes from the point that AI exists in *different* forms that it's hard to group them all.

Trust me, I'm sick of always being fucking connected online. If you need to point a finger to blame, you can still root it back to capitalism for pushing the direction.

mellowmink.bsky.social•116 days ago

I guarantee that there's more than a single study that shows benefits of non-generative AI; it doesn't help to attack AI as a whole when what you should be focused on is generative AI specifically.

lunchbox17.bsky.social•116 days ago

If there is such a study, then produce it. Don't just handwave & say it exists lol. In any case, this study was literally touted as first of its kind, hence my response fits well. And lastly, it does help to attack "AI" as a whole because I want that whole shit destroyed forever! Extinct!

themissinglink97.bsky.social•116 days ago

Where this gets into the trouble of it is the underlying technology of these machine learning applications is very similar. None of them should be called AI, but that’s a branding term.

What separates them most is the usage and sourcing of the training data. For art, there’s no ethical use

themissinglink97.bsky.social•116 days ago

So when you source the training data from a small set of ethically sourced data to do a specific task, it is very good at pattern recognition, but recognizing patterns in geography or biology.

This also falls apart for art where there is defined intent behind the decisions made in it

jackfahey.bsky.social•117 days ago

You can try, but people still call these things hoverboards.

snepperstepping.bsky.social•116 days ago

Its also really confusing because i'm super interested in how the random vehicle traffic driving functions in the simpsons hit & run (don't tell me if you know, i learn thru observation not reddit doof)
But that's its vehicle AI.

nuvie.tv•117 days ago

even generative ai has its use cases. it's less about the tool and more about using it ethically.

azuli.bsky.social•116 days ago

It's theft and resource hungry, already causing bad energy oscillations some good km away from the bigger data centers.

There's no ethical use for generative AI.

kurotitan7125.bsky.social•116 days ago

This is the only type of machine learning I'd condone.

aitamr.bsky.social•117 days ago

Even genAI can be useful, for synthetic biology for instance. I'm not a big fan of "tech is neutral but applications can be" but in this case it makes sense imo.

aitamr.bsky.social•116 days ago

"applications can be" harmful of course

jethanded-wyvern.bsky.social•116 days ago

It's why I am specific, too. Yes, AI has its uses. The self-perpetuating persistent plagiarism plague only exists to prop up a moneyed class while they pump insurmountable resources, digital and physical, into it to not even any gain.

foxridley.bsky.social•116 days ago

One neat use of machine learning I came across was a study that used it to precisely locate thousands of small earthquakes beneath Hawaii. Those earthquakes highlighted the locations of previously unknown magma chambers. Good for pure science but it could also help predict eruptions.

mxleelah.bsky.social•117 days ago

Yes thank you! I really think a lot of people have no idea there even is a difference.

alexadoe.bsky.social•116 days ago

I think medical is the most acceptable use of it.. but yes, fuck genAI

hyenatown.bsky.social•116 days ago

I think we need to stop calling the "AI" that is useful "AI" and call it Machine Learning again so we can at least distance the terms further than excluding a single operative word like "generative".

wishmakers.bsky.social•116 days ago

this is what I've been saying tbh, I don't want to fuel the buzzword machine. Machine learning is the actually meaningful application

diaxoyomi.bsky.social•116 days ago

This is actually helpful to make a very fine line of "Machine Learning is a good thing to develop" vs "This AI is trying to replace artists". Like, I want this to catch on more personally speaking.

ratchetfox.bsky.social•116 days ago

Didn't think I would have a use for this so quickly

bluetaur.bsky.social•116 days ago

Hah, perfect!

abeewords.bsky.social•116 days ago

this is a good thought!

rszasz.saxonco.com•116 days ago

Ehh. When it's a company's paper with company involvement in all steps, I'm suspicious of the results.

abeewords.bsky.social•116 days ago

this is a reasonable suspicion (although I do think my larger point that some kinds of AI are useful as distinct from genAI stands)

rszasz.saxonco.com•116 days ago

Oh definitely. "AI" does neat little things like let's me ID birdsongs, and there's plenty of lightweight image recognition libraries ala opencv.

2centschange.bsky.social•116 days ago

One thing I've always looked at generative ai art for is for commissions. Specifically, using the ai art to create the ideas you want the actual artist to use. Usually they'll send pictures from existing projects to get the idea of colors, pose, etc. This is where it could be handy.

abeewords.bsky.social•116 days ago

I mean… no

2centschange.bsky.social•116 days ago

I'm curious why you think this is a problem?

abeewords.bsky.social•116 days ago

Because use of genAI is making use of and therefore legitimising the systematic scraping of artists’ actual work without permission, and any prompt contributes to an absurd use of water and electricity, when you could just google comp examples or even sketch out stick figures of what you want

abeewords.bsky.social•116 days ago

Or just have conversations with the artist, that’s what you’re paying them for

2centschange.bsky.social•116 days ago

That depends on the GenAI being used. Tess and Ascendant both paid artists to submit work to train its model.

marabyte.com•116 days ago

Nah, we just need to train more pigeons https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-34878151

oceanblue-art.bsky.social•116 days ago

There are many legitimate uses for AI in the arts, such as smart selection tools and background erasers- these tools have been available for many years already. There is no place for GENERATIVE AI in the arts. Important distinction.

Comments

Posting Rules

Reply