What’s going to happen with all of his Russian buddies he puts up so they can bring their pregnant wives over have babies in Florida? This is going to piss some oligarchs off. Opps!
Sadly, they have already suspended the Constitution in other ways. This will be challenged and is done,in part, to provoke reactions they can use to paint people as dangerous.
But they don't even tell the people themselves the constitution itself is being violated at all or what the rules are for amending it. That should be in the headline.
No. Don’t cave like that. It’s just Miller’s wet dream. It is illegal and 100% unconstitutional. It has no force of law. Don’t give it credence. It will be struck down.
I get that people are having trouble grasping this but saying that the rules matter doesn't help with cheaters
1. There is a decent chance SCOTUS, on a challenge, would say that birthright citizenship was only intended for slaves and thus is invalid as we know it
2. Trump may ignore SCOTUS
he already ignores them, and you're admitting the EO isn't valid until it's considered by the court.
not really a matter of grasping whether rules matter.
Right. He can’t overrule a law passed by Congress and signed off by a president. The next 4 yrs will be all about lawsuits unless the real elites (not written in our Constitution), behind the curtain decide to remove him.
If he even needs to. Trump’s DOJ isn’t prosecuting any Trump Admin officials for acts Trump told them to do. It’s gonna be 4 years of “for my friends everything, for everyone else the law”.
So, kids born today in the US of non-US parents will have unclear status. I suppose it all becomes real when those kids face some legal hurdle denying them citizenship rights.
Anyone born any time whose parents were not documented U.S. citizens at the time of birth are affected. I don’t know why people think it’s not retroactive or applies only to kids.
It’s unlikely even this SCOTUS would uphold the EO over the literal text of the Constitution, but it’s not impossible
However, until a challenge reaches a court with the power to stay the EO, the EO will likely be operationalized as law by Trump loyalists in the government.
Undocumented mother gives birth and requests a SSN for the child. While I think the constitution guarantees that right, nothing will stop the government requesting to see the SSN or alien registration number for the parents. This request may also ask for the address.
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The constitution is only a piece of paper if no one bothers following it
Old enough to remember the first stupid days of the first Felon™️ administration like they were yesterday.
This is not simply a "next four years" situation. This is a "post-America" situation.
1. There is a decent chance SCOTUS, on a challenge, would say that birthright citizenship was only intended for slaves and thus is invalid as we know it
2. Trump may ignore SCOTUS
not really a matter of grasping whether rules matter.
I'm not using big words here. You sound like the people who would insist "this isn't allowed to happen" as they are shoved onto the train.
It's fine. You'll see soon enough. Things are about to get bad
We'll find out in the next few months. Once Hegseth is confirmed and they have cleaned house at the DOD
That should be the case—but if people follow the EO rather than the Constitution, it’s not worthless.
It’s new law.
Trump is purging the government of non-loyalists, and loyalists will likely follow the EO.
It will no doubt be challenged to SCOTUS, however.
Wicked evil doers abusing the legal system: "Curses! Damn you and your big brains!"
*Law enforcement continues acting on EO anyway*
It's all so petty.
However, until a challenge reaches a court with the power to stay the EO, the EO will likely be operationalized as law by Trump loyalists in the government.
This is where we are.
The fear may be what they want.
The Executive.
Even if it goes down, many who should be protected will be harmed, some irreparably.