Most Nazis call what Musk did (and what they would like to do openly) a “Roman salute.” Calling it that doesn’t make it less of a Nazi salute, but doing so might obfuscate the meaning for the general public. The bottom line is Musk was signaling, and the Nazis definitely understood the signal. - ThreadSky

leahmcelrath.bsky.social • 35 days ago

Most Nazis call what Musk did (and what they would like to do openly) a “Roman salute.”

Calling it that doesn’t make it less of a Nazi salute, but doing so might obfuscate the meaning for the general public.

The bottom line is Musk was signaling, and the Nazis definitely understood the signal.

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jimohara.bsky.social•33 days ago

Ancient historians explain that that was NOT an ancient Roman salute; the Romans never used the Fascist salute.
"Elon Musk’s defenders were quick to claim that his hand motion was actually an ancient “Roman salute” — but that gesture never existed." https://hyperallergic.com/984855/the-revisionist-history-of-the-nazi-salute/?fbclid=IwY2xjawH-YitleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHQ-c00SbhQ6fUNI0E3by5mCWLNWboUWcZmWqTwqAi5HKueLM3L_XM8k3jQ_aem_-0brUjtUKaik1Jxlgb7b1Q

basscleffer.bsky.social•35 days ago

Correct.

the-hampter.bsky.social•21 days ago

Ah yeah, a Roman Salute, that totally normal thing that everyone knows and does all the time

calliegraceleeson.bsky.social•35 days ago

Nazis want to tie their ideology to Western greatness. Elon didn't do it because the Romans did it. He did it because the Nazis did it. They are trying to make being a Nazi a 'good' thing, a continuation of a great Western civilization.

rteefact.bsky.social•35 days ago

The Roman Salute adopted by Benito Mussolini (Facist)

leahmcelrath.bsky.social•35 days ago

Yes, and it was then adopted by the Nazis.

karavorwald.bsky.social•35 days ago

My dad is calling it false narratives, won’t even be like omg yeah not ok. For many of them I don’t think they are in reality.

pashav.xyz•35 days ago

Always consult your chart. If in red zone: Nazi.

leahmcelrath.bsky.social•35 days ago

Excellent thread on the European history in the thread below. (There was also a similar gesture called “the Bellamy salute” that was used in the United States for about 40 years in coordination with the Pledge of Allegiance. It was later dropped after the beginning of WWII.)
https://bsky.app/profile/drmarinaarcher.bsky.social/post/3lga7f4zsdk2m

dsky.bsky.social•35 days ago

I had a moment earlier of trying to decide which essay on language, naming, history, and politics I should post and gave up in exhaustion. The thing is the thing no matter what we call it and learning to see that is survival.

leahmcelrath.bsky.social•35 days ago

Well said.

elinde.bsky.social•34 days ago

The Bellamy salute was as "similarity the Nazi Heil as raising tour hand in class is. The hand was gently raised *palm up* to the sky, like setting a butterfly free.

Totally different vibe.

leahmcelrath.bsky.social•34 days ago

As I said…
https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3lgbrxdu3pk2i

drmarinaarcher.bsky.social•35 days ago

One more with details and video at the end - that show why there is NO mistaking this precise gesture for anything else:
https://bsky.app/profile/drmarinaarcher.bsky.social/post/3lgaeparrqs2o

therealzman.bsky.social•35 days ago

johnhatchard.bsky.social•35 days ago

"Right-Wing Extremists Are Abuzz Over Musk’s Straight-Arm Salute."

I added extra links to this Bluesky thread not included in the original article.

This shit is utterly terrifying.

freckledone-d2e.bsky.social•35 days ago

If it talks like a Nazi and gesticulates like a Nazi, it‘s a Nazi.

drmarinaarcher.bsky.social•35 days ago

Here - this thread can help you with the fascist history of this gesture:

https://bsky.app/profile/drmarinaarcher.bsky.social/post/3lga7f4zsdk2m

spaceorcats.bsky.social•35 days ago

After the hb-1 visa drama, Musk had to win the racists back somehow.

wendelschwab.bsky.social•35 days ago

These lying losers: "Oh, so carrying a fasces is fascist now, is it? It's just from Rome!"

leahmcelrath.bsky.social•35 days ago

LOL

wendelschwab.bsky.social•35 days ago

Also, there is exactly zero historical evidence the Romans ever used that salute. It was made up by fascists and called that to recall the glory of Rome because they're goddamn fascists.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_salute

leahmcelrath.bsky.social•35 days ago

Yeah, my understanding is that this particular symbolic historical anchor is not well founded.

leahnpdx.bsky.social•35 days ago

Sickening. Openly a Nazi.

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