I guess it needs to be said daily at this point because too many leftist men don't seem to get it. WOMEN DON'T OWE YOU SHIT. We don't owe you clarification. We don't owe you our energy. We don't owe you an explanation. We don't owe you kindness. WOMEN DON'T OWE YOU SHIT. - ThreadSky

thetwistedhook.bsky.social • 90 days ago

I guess it needs to be said daily at this point because too many leftist men don't seem to get it.

WOMEN DON'T OWE YOU SHIT.

We don't owe you clarification.
We don't owe you our energy.
We don't owe you an explanation.
We don't owe you kindness.

WOMEN DON'T OWE YOU SHIT.

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thomasantonson.bsky.social•90 days ago

I agree with the original post. My personal philosophy is this: That which is freely given should never be an obligation.

jukesgrrl.bsky.social•90 days ago

What was the original post? I can't figure out on bsky how one finds that. Clicking on the top post (Amanda's in this case) and trying to move the cursor up doesn't get me there.

terilyn.bsky.social•90 days ago

I have a shirt that says this 🫶🏼

riley37.bsky.social•90 days ago

Whenever you wear that shirt, you offer literate men a free educational message about the state of obligation between you and them. You don't OWE us that education, so thank you!
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If any man feels that he is owed an explanation, you may direct him to me. I don't owe him one either, but I can give.

thetwistedhook.bsky.social•90 days ago

Love that for you 😍

redslider.bsky.social•87 days ago

But just now, they owe themselves something but I don't see them taking it. Don't know why not.

jefffoliage.bsky.social•90 days ago

I think you mean men on the right... maybe not but it seems the right has troubles with women...

lizzietish81.bsky.social•90 days ago

thetwistedhook.bsky.social•90 days ago

Men on the left also have misogynistic issues. I was very clear to who I was speaking to.

jefffoliage.bsky.social•90 days ago

I'm sorry to hear that I know men on both sides can have those issues but I "think" more are on the right, if they are on the left... might they be closet maga peeps? 😀

thetwistedhook.bsky.social•90 days ago

I call out conservative men all the time today was about men on the left.

jefffoliage.bsky.social•90 days ago

You are right, no one owes another anything based on their sex. I do owe my mother for giving me birth and a host of other thing but aside from that, in general, we don't owe anything to other people except respect...

thetwistedhook.bsky.social•90 days ago

I assure you if you go through enough of my posts from the day I've been getting non stop misogyny from the left men who were following me for simply telling men on the left that women don't owe you shit.

nathanhardee.bsky.social•89 days ago

But please have empathy for the virgin retards who suffer every day at intrusive thoughts over what we will NEVER have. Please.

Seriously I hate the incel cringe too, but the cringe proves the point that it’s tough shit to wrap your head around, yk? I want to die and can’t, what else can I say?

morgaine-pendragon.bsky.social•90 days ago

I see the misogynists have invaded 🙄

spideymac.bsky.social•90 days ago

But what’s your point 🤔

tuneraider.bsky.social•90 days ago

You owe the same as we all owe each other .

Respect.

If we all just stick to being respectful the rest flows naturally from it.

thetwistedhook.bsky.social•90 days ago

Nope women don't owe you shit

tuneraider.bsky.social•90 days ago

Kindred spirit.

axamoretl.bsky.social•90 days ago

Respect is earned, not owed.

tuneraider.bsky.social•90 days ago

People trot out that line without thinking . Trust is earned, respect is given. Without a basic level of respect there is no civilised society.

Respect for others privacy
Respect for others way of life
Respect for others safety
Respect for others rights
Respect for others beliefs

axamoretl.bsky.social•89 days ago

Which is funny considering your response to someone saying they do not owe others response, education, or their energy is to argue that they actually DO owe others that. Which contradicts several of your points.

tuneraider.bsky.social•89 days ago

My response was to you about respect being earned.

To her I just said all we owe each other is respect.

seriousguy.bsky.social•89 days ago

This post is so vague idk if it's about break ups or cat calling or men getting weird after getting rejected

jenmcdowell.bsky.social•90 days ago

Can we please add women don’t owe men a smile? I’m so fckn over being told to smile by men.

renenberg.bsky.social•90 days ago

Thank you! Been told that by men I’m doing business with in the middle of a negotiation, or OMG, offered a hug so I “calm down.” W T F.

riley37.bsky.social•90 days ago

There are some good takes on this issue..Here's one:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX4sf1JVY24

jenmcdowell.bsky.social•90 days ago

I love it!

riley37.bsky.social•88 days ago

what is the BlueSky UI, for navigating to the antecedent of a reply? "I love it" appears in my notifications, but without context. I infer that you're replying to a bloosk from me.

jenmcdowell.bsky.social•88 days ago

Unfortunately I have zero idea on that. I’m not at all tech savvy.

I can see though that it was in reply to your YouTube video about men asking women to smile, if that helps.

riley37.bsky.social•88 days ago

Oh, right, thanks! Yeah, it was a spin-off from Amanda's thread about "women don't owe you", and you mentioned men demanding smiles from women.
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My boss once encouraged me to smile more while I was at work, but that was legit, it wasn't a _demand_.
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Bluesky might not even HAVE that feature, yet.

lovelydantalion.bsky.social•89 days ago

I just got told to smile more by a male neighbor earlier today actually. I don’t see why I should considering how things are. I much prefer the look of neutrality/anger as my rights are basically going to be stripped away.

jenmcdowell.bsky.social•89 days ago

I can totally understand feeling that way. Being told to smile is aggravating at the best of times but for an American woman, with the situation as it is, it would be almost rage inducing. I’m impressed you didn’t go off on him. You have amazing self control.

lovelydantalion.bsky.social•89 days ago

Oh, I mean I did tell him that he should stop talking to people that he doesn’t know anything about. Didn’t raise my voice at all and he just said “ok, be a bitch.” Lmao.

jenmcdowell.bsky.social•89 days ago

Of course he called you a bitch. Par for the course for the type of man who tells women to smile.

mxa-news.bsky.social•90 days ago

"You should smile more."

"Your parents don't. Why should I?"

chelsive.bsky.social•90 days ago

Ugh, this! Especially at work. I'm literally minding my business and working.
Just no.

riley37.bsky.social•87 days ago

I have raised a somewhat counterpart question, on my own feed, with no reference - not yet, not in round 1 - to this discussion. One response so far.

riley37.bsky.social•90 days ago

One my minor hobbies is dunking on people (sometimes men, sometimes others) who respond to basic boundaries and ethical assertions with arrogant drivel. Responses here give me ample opportunity to practice that petty hobby. Thanks for the opportunity (rather than the fulfilled obligation).
(1 of 2)

riley37.bsky.social•90 days ago

I wish society had a structure for re-directing good faith questions, so that one could follow "I don't owe you an education" with "so here's someone who might offer you an education, as a free gift"; a referral to a clue hotline, staffed mainly by cis straight white men with spare spoons.
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venetrix2.bsky.social•90 days ago

I mean, yes, but following "I don't owe you an education" with a link to resources is somewhat of a contradiction. Our primary educators are and should always be ourselves. It's hard work, but the answers are out there.

riley37.bsky.social•89 days ago

Outcome A: he follows the resource link and maybe learns.
Outcome B: feeling rejected, he stomps off to talk with his right-wing friend. That friend consoles him, tells them that he's NOT a bad person, and then recruits him into the Proud Boys.
I'll risk contradiction, to get A rather than B.

bravegirl.bsky.social•90 days ago

"Sometimes men, sometimes OTHERS"????

Go away.

revbailey56.bsky.social•90 days ago

I guess that's why they do better with dogs and cats

tomstdenis.bsky.social•90 days ago

oh thanks for clearing that up because I was going around planning on how to vote Liberal all the while taking away your healthcare rights, or employment rights, or charter rights, or ...

Oh wait, no that's the Conservatives.

Glad I could mansplain that for you. Hiyaaaa!

enahchine.bsky.social•90 days ago

It isn’t leftist men that are denying abortion and reproductive rights. Soon women will understand the difference if they haven’t by now.

artamisc.bsky.social•90 days ago

This is bait coming from someone who wouldn’t get touched by a leftist man with a 10 foot pole. Derangement sweeping derangement under the rug to develop more derangement because they’re deranged. You can’t talk them out of it. It’s a mental disorder.

gortiloniousmonk.bsky.social•90 days ago

is the 1900s "female hysteria" stereotype back in style for yall?

yog-krakthulhu.bsky.social•90 days ago

So, I'm guessing your reading comprehension skills aren't very good. When someone says “Too many leftist men don't seem to get it” that doesn't mean all men on the left. Though you being butthurt about it just shows the post included you.

riley37.bsky.social•89 days ago

oh, that enahchine loser. He's fishing for an argument, so he can assign himself a W and hand out Ls. He's also playing the "you need me because the OTHER men are even WORSE" gambit.

yog-krakthulhu.bsky.social•89 days ago

I take umbrage with those who hide behind political leanings to say “I can’t be Misogynistic, Racist, Homophobic, Transphobic, Ableist, etc because I’m left, I’m one of the good ones” while doing the thing in question. Left - Right doesn’t matter, be better.

riley37.bsky.social•88 days ago

R'amen!
Declaring "I am one of the good ones" is not a magic spell which makes me a Good One. "The good ones" is at best an approximation. Righting wrongs, or at least mitigating harm, in ways which earn the respect and trust of the downtrodden, is a magic spell which makes me incrementally better.

yog-krakthulhu.bsky.social•88 days ago

Pastafarian?

yog-krakthulhu.bsky.social•90 days ago

Eeek. While it might not be strictly a left or right type of issue and more of a society problem because misogyny exists on both sides. That said the right is obvious about it and some on the left pretend they aren't while saying shit like “soon women will see the difference”

gortiloniousmonk.bsky.social•90 days ago

you make it sound like you're making a threat

enahchine.bsky.social•90 days ago

Not making a threat at all, just stating reality. If you want to attack leftist men, go ahead.

thetwistedhook.bsky.social•90 days ago

That's exactly what he did. These men have zero emotional regulation. They threaten women that hurt their feelings.

enahchine.bsky.social•90 days ago

My feelings aren’t hurt; I am way past that. Women are dying from anti abortion legislation, but you are concerned about leftist men. I would be concerned about anti abortion legislation, rapists being appointed to high government positions, etc.

theradicalleftist.bsky.social•90 days ago

Women are dying from LACK of Healthcare not anti abortion care shut the fuck up Jesus fucking christ you sound like a fucking child

thetwistedhook.bsky.social•90 days ago

I can care about that and call leftist men out. Isn't that a nice concept.

enahchine.bsky.social•90 days ago

I can call women out who insult leftist men. Isn’t that a nice concept?

gortiloniousmonk.bsky.social•90 days ago

oof, badly lying about your feelings - you got some work to do on your relationship with the patriarchal male idol, man

enahchine.bsky.social•90 days ago

First of all, you don’t know me and I have no need to lie about my feelings. I tell it straight. I have no idea what patriarchal idol you think I have a relationship with. I have no idols. The truth is that women are dying and losing quality medical care and it is not from leftist men.

guterboy.bsky.social•90 days ago

I feel sorry for the ego driven men that think they are owed anything from anyone, much less a woman. Women are not beneath us, they are equal (at least they should be) to us. If you feel any woman "owes" you ANYTHING, then you should really look into some mental help.

jonnyv42.bsky.social•90 days ago

No one is owed anything

the-dogfather.bsky.social•90 days ago

Women should be treated equally to us, but they are far superior in many ways. No dude would go through the shit they go through and still be standing.

guterboy.bsky.social•90 days ago

I agree 110%. Thats why I wanted Harris for president. That why men are scared of her being president. They would have to see that men are not the best for running the country. Its like universal healthcare. R did a study, and showed that it would actually save the US money, but they deny it.

the-dogfather.bsky.social•90 days ago

This country has given old white dudes enough time to get it right and they still mess it up, time after time. Biden had so much to clean up that the deck was stacked against him, but with Kamala they accomplished more than any administration in my lifetime. Now back to the stone ages - really?

ireckon.bsky.social•90 days ago

Amen!

jack-kerrigan.bsky.social•90 days ago

It’s really telling that so many men in these threads can’t just accept that and instead succumb to the defensive compulsion of telling you that you’re wrong.
And then they’ll tell you that they’re nice guys who support women.
I can only imagine how aggravating that has to be to deal with.

ykantbobreed.bsky.social•89 days ago

It’s weird how many men are feminists, but don’t see that if they don’t owe women anything, women must also owe men nothing.

“Courts are sexist for giving mothers custody by default”, but also “women can breastfeed, so they should do more child rearing.”

You can’t have it both ways.

joedanielsjimenez.bsky.social•89 days ago

Thanks for making me this post. I forgot I had asked.

bassdog61.bsky.social•90 days ago

Sorry, you have a beef with leftist men? Agree, you don’t owe me shit.

thetwistedhook.bsky.social•90 days ago

Nope I just want them to do better. We should be holding ourselves to a higher degree. Leftist men do not get a pass on being misogynistic.

jooddart.bsky.social•89 days ago

As a man I agree

gallaecian.bsky.social•90 days ago

BOOM!💥💥💥

jcjmorris.bsky.social•90 days ago

Defund the Tone Police ✊

yog-krakthulhu.bsky.social•90 days ago

Very true.

4ndyroo.bsky.social•90 days ago

I don’t think any self respecting leftist should even engage in a debate picking through the rights of particular sub-categories of people, because their worldview *should* assume that those rights are universal.

riley37.bsky.social•82 days ago

"should" in one hand, "is" in the other

thepurpleknight.bsky.social•89 days ago

There are too many wasps in this beehive.

derrickoshae.bsky.social•90 days ago

So many forget the word NO is a complete answer.

ostrichstrauss.bsky.social•90 days ago

We all owe each other kindness imo

riley37.bsky.social•89 days ago

There's a difference between
(a) "I'm sending you a present because I thought of you"
versus
(B) "I'm sending you a present because as god-parent, I owe you a present every Christmas, even though I've never met you".
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You can give and receive kindness without OWING kindness.

themountaingoat.bsky.social•89 days ago

I tend to think that all people owe basic moral duties to all other people but I guess that is hopelessly old fashioned these days.

riley37.bsky.social•89 days ago

Other things which are also old fashioned:
selling cotton candy at public hangings
racially segregated drinking fountains
marital exceptions to rape laws
DDT
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O tempura! O morays!

themountaingoat.bsky.social•88 days ago

Because bad stuff happened in the past everything that happened in the past was bad? Is that your argument?

riley37.bsky.social•88 days ago

No, that is not my argument.
Are you familiar with Venn diagrams?

jacqueblue.bsky.social•90 days ago

During the pandemic I saw all these videos of men punching dudes in the face for screaming vulgarities at women. I was in a busy restaurant one night. (crappy one) Full of men just off construction jobs. My date started screaming crap at me. I walked away, he screamed louder. They all stayed silent.

guloguloguerilla.bsky.social•90 days ago

Good thread to find blocks. Thank you! 👍

thetwistedhook.bsky.social•90 days ago

You're so welcome 🤗

liltruckerwally.bsky.social•89 days ago

Men don't owe women either.

unklebiff.bsky.social•90 days ago

If any Man is upset by this, it was directed toward you…

🤷‍♂️

lilithlunari.bsky.social•90 days ago

Yeah, I don't see many leftist men act like that. I don't really see this as a common phenomenon

riley37.bsky.social•87 days ago

Well, anything you have not personally observed, isn't important anyways.
/sarcasm
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wait, have you ever seen the Southern Cross?

amyoc.bsky.social•89 days ago

We don’t owe you babies
We don’t owe you validation

We don’t owe you SHIT !

thetwistedhook.bsky.social•89 days ago

Ewwww

amyoc.bsky.social•89 days ago

Sorry I saw a theme here

rodrickspode.bsky.social•90 days ago

We called BS on these expectations back in the 60s
Do the work yourselves, boys.

godless2.bsky.social•90 days ago

A different set of 4Bs, but 4Bs just the same.

hobbitlover.bsky.social•89 days ago

Out of curiosity, why leftist men? Why not rightwing men? Or just men?

thetwistedhook.bsky.social•89 days ago

I call them out all the time. Leftist men do not get a pass to be misogynistic.

hobbitlover.bsky.social•89 days ago

Not saying they should get a pass, just why this particular post brings up the left specifically? It's more me wondering what I missed before this post that would explain why it's not a more general statement.

riley37.bsky.social•89 days ago

(if you read all the context and you're STILL confused, HMU, but do your own work first.)

thetwistedhook.bsky.social•89 days ago

Look man you're free to read though the comments and on my page I've posted screenshots all over it.

therealmandyque.bsky.social•89 days ago

The sentiment is good, but I'm a 'leftist' and it tends to be right wing misogynists who expect my time and effort.

riley37.bsky.social•89 days ago

if you scroll up and down, you will see many men who call themselves leftists who express outrage, and who each expect time and effort from Amanda. Some are as nasty as Fred Phelps, others are less nasty but the hypocrisy goes to 11.

therealmandyque.bsky.social•89 days ago

I really don't think Fred Phelps is a leftist

riley37.bsky.social•88 days ago

He's pushing up daisies.

therealmandyque.bsky.social•88 days ago

Best place for him

jugeebear.bsky.social•89 days ago

Leftists?

riley37.bsky.social•87 days ago

Ah, the GIF of a black man, for when you don't have that degree of expressiveness with your own face and voice!
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and when you can't articulate a question in the form of a sentence either.

jugeebear.bsky.social•86 days ago

riley37.bsky.social•86 days ago

Are you actually a woman of color, or do you just _wish_ that you had the emotional expressiveness of a woman of color?

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