The Green Party don’t get as much media coverage as Reform because the continuation of civilised human life on the planet isn’t as interesting as cunts.
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Controversy promotes reactions and reactions promotes the algorithm to push the post, or if you're a consumer of printed media similarly controversy promotes sensational headlines which sells newspapers. Either way you don't see the sensible comments unless you dig for it
It’s worse than that. Only people interested in the greens click on articles about the greens, but people who hate reform click on stories about reform. So stories about reform generate more online traffic. More traffic increases the value of their shares so they post more stories about reform.
Then social media algorithms pump Reform shite through to anyone clicking rather than a more balanced selection. & AI Grok etc derive their responses based on data in search engines so the more Reform stuff is accessed, the more it’s used by grok even if it’s a load of bollocks
True. But even the state owned media behaves this way. We started off laughing at Big Brother candidates. But now they dictate global policy. The inmates have taken over the asylum. And we handed them the keys.
If it isn't a psychodrama, it doesn't merit a report. Nice, decent & competent just don't sell. The woman who wants migrants to live in tents is getting the airtime. Watch the Lib Dems & Greens later - or rather, don't. They won't get a look-in.
To you and me maybe, but not to the folk who really just want to just chuck everything in the one bin and to drive large V8 powered SUVs. Even if they only have a clapped out Vauxhall Astra budget and live in a rented two bed. And they blame “immigrants” for it all 🤷♂️
They just don't get the same rage hits as a bile-filled gammon with a face like a pug's arse puckering furiously around an angry wasp spewing hate memes and TikTokable shitbites.
They’re also not as obsessively self-publicising, if they were, they’d still have to play up to the bearded crank stereotype to make an impression which would be self-defeating.
The thing with the Greens is I never hear them really talking about green policy’s or the environment. They tend to focus on immigration or trans issues no issues there from me but so very little environment policy gets reported I find
Check speeches by Green MPs and peers then. The whole Green long-term manifesto is based around integrated 'Policies for a Sustainable Society'. These long-term policies are currently still not public in the web though @greenparty.org.uk
Oh I’m passionate about the environment and it’s one of my biggest concerns. My point was I take an interest in politics and if I never hear the green view (without having to go to a website) then casual voters won’t know it
True. UK & US priorities have gone badly askew. How UK deals with boatful's of desperate immigrants matters more than our grim fate as humanity under climate change. Both UK & US suffer serious short term blinkers, arguing over their pitiful stakes of land, when whole planet in peril.
I’ve just been reading a thread on my local FB group where a very obviously Russian bot was encouraging people to vote Reform yesterday. And the stupid bastards were agreeing with it.
Joking apart, suspect the Green cause feels “normal” for a lot of people in the media, and therefore a bit “dog bites man” news-wise, while the knee-jerk stands-to-reason pub bore right wing cause feels new and edgy. That just tells you what class / culture the media are drawn from in the main.
Poor disenfranchised folk the world over vote for parties that make them poorer and less enfranchised, Farages offer is that those who vote for him dont have to engage anything as wearisome as their critical faculties, they just vote with their inner cunt & hope for the best
For the most part the Reform vote, like the Trump vote and the Brexit vote, isn't "poor disenfranchised folk". Obviously some poor people voted for all those things, but the typical voter for all of those is a well-off small businessman (very male demographics) without much education.
Yes and no, if you look at Clacton, it is a very poor area, poorly educated folk who have given up on being better off. so having someone else to blame for their misfortune is the emotional salve they need, everyone will be poorer under Reform save for...oh...thats right...the Liberal elites
Typically someone like a plumber, a builder, a taxi driver, who made a bit of money and invested in property and is now a small landlord. People who are well off but have a chip on their shoulder and are worried they'll lose what they have.
A member of my family who spent his uni days getting pissed and claiming every benefit going, travelling across Europe voted for Brexit because he wanted to deny "Snow flake" young people the advantages he enjoyed, many of his friends did the same for similar reasons...Stewart Lee had it spot on
God knows how they can feel "new" to anyone after 10+ years of Farage on our screens. But I think the fact that media are always taking him seriously is one reason why more voters think he might not be that bad.
Also, the soundbite they’ll get from a Green is “climate change bad” but there’s always a chance of “Megan Markle eats puppies” from one of the Swivel Eyed Loons.
Yeah. Remember saying that most of the Independent’s front pages could have the word “still” in the headline. Which is bad for impulse sales and reaction heat. Whereas the right wing press and Farage go very hard on headlines with “now” in them.
The liberal media could embrace “now” with ease to attack the wrongs of the world. But they prefer “still”, which has a feeling of lecturing the public.
Good point, that perhaps the way to be heard is Outrage Farming. It's been the single most uniting thing across the political spectrum. People love to be outraged.
No, they just agree with Reform. They’re on the same side, so they amplify them. There’s nothing more complex than that really. Just shared ideological interests.
Also, I think that the well meaning mainstream have kind of given up on the environment- too overwhelming. That’s when the easy option of ‘it’s all a scam anyway’ becomes way more attractive
… Then because he has lots of media coverage, he can shout about all his great ideas.
Plus it’s so much easier to come up with fantastic ideas when you know you’ll never have to follow through on it, like the £20k tax threshold. How’s that financed?? 🤷♀️
Farage plays to people’s emotions - fear, anger, isolation - whereas other parties deal in facts & realities. Emotions are an easier sell. Farage is a Johnny Come Lately - lets the main parties come up with policy ideas then says afterwards how he would do it, usually the opposite.
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Exhibit A - The Communist Party of Great Britain issued a statement on the equality ruling fully supporting it in all aspects.
The Greens called for the Equality Commission draft guidelines to be removed and emphasised their trans support.
Which party sounds more radical to you?
Orthodox ML parties, especially ones influenced by Stalinism, are quite well known for being extremely socially conservative and supporting fascist social policies. Stalinism, unlike most other forms of Marxism, was heavily influenced by fascism.
I think it is more to do with who owns the main stream media than anything else. They have an agenda and they are pushing it hard. And yes, that includes the BBC even if not directly owned by them.
And people making reasonable, well-thoughtful and insightful points are great podcast material but terrible TV.
Current affairs producers want their gammon fresh and red. Or those ice cold racist blonde women they occasionally find.
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#FightFascism
Just not real ratings winners are they?
If you dont like it, ban the foreign billionaires that run our country, rather than blaming poor lickle Nigel!
‘Discuss…’
And hate wins on getting eyeballs every time.
“Now they want to cut down your trees!”
“Deforestation still damaging habitats.”
Typical establishment media
Plus it’s so much easier to come up with fantastic ideas when you know you’ll never have to follow through on it, like the £20k tax threshold. How’s that financed?? 🤷♀️
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Ditto - the fake alternative.
How do we know ReFuk are ‘anti establishment’? Because the establishment told us duh.
Best way to get people to swallow the blue pill is tell them it’s red.
We have to fight this.
Our media is both right wing and liars.
We need to challenge.
By the way, the planet is home for more than just humans.
It’s all about rhythm.
The Greens called for the Equality Commission draft guidelines to be removed and emphasised their trans support.
Which party sounds more radical to you?
Orthodox ML parties, especially ones influenced by Stalinism, are quite well known for being extremely socially conservative and supporting fascist social policies. Stalinism, unlike most other forms of Marxism, was heavily influenced by fascism.
The Green party is a joke with Jill Stein. Maybe it's gotten better, IDK but Jill Stein ruined their brand.
Reform are least consistent - "Take the c*ntiest position available on everything"
Current affairs producers want their gammon fresh and red. Or those ice cold racist blonde women they occasionally find.