tbh it seems right now that the 18-24/experienced covid during high school demographic is just a lot more conservative than the 24-30 group, which kinda obscures how right wing a lot of the very youngest voters are.
I mean, it makes sense. People who get their news from social media are a lot more conservative than those who get it from the legacy news sources, in a lot of ways we delegated a large chunk of 18-25 year olds' formative years to tiktok and instagram reels lol.
Media plays a role, but the single biggest influence in young people's politics is their parents' politics. They were stuck in the house with their (mostly Gen X) parents during COVID, which is when a lot of Gen X became unsalvageable.
The first graph is from Norway, so not that relevant for US politics. The second graph, as Sharon said, is not that useful because most young voters are now registering as independents
Every time I see a graph about how right-wing young people are, it turns out that it's not true or doesn't have the implications that people think. For example, with this graph from Norway, people should keep in mind three things.
First, it's still less than 25% who think gender equality has gone too far; second, people form their politics in their 20s, not in their teens; and third, specific questions about gender equality, like whether they think men should have priority in the job market, can produce different results.
Yes, and also keep in mind that Democrats have or had a partisan registration advantage in many states for historical reasons, but that is completely disconnected from how people actually vote. So the increase in Republican registration is the alignment between registration and how people vote.
North Carolina has been getting bluer in practice. Along with Georgia and Wisconsin, NC is probably the best candidate to become a blue state in the next few election cycles, and Dems do better with young voters than old voters in NC and pretty much every other state.
Tbf we saw 2000-2022 kids votes in 2018-2022 and they were left-leaning; it’s really more 2003/4-8 where their increased GOP support was always soft & less ideological and thus always prone to shifting back
Which to say if this poll is accurate, this drop in support is coming from 2003/4-2008
Also, Gen Z was not only still the most left leaning gen in 2024 but the most left-leaning gen by double digits- their Trump support catering so quickly isn’t surprising considering this
Okay fair, people see a 2% shift in voting totals on an election *where a few million democrats don't bother to vote and decide every 24 year old has become hitler
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I'm guessing that quite a few were so tik tok-brained that they genuinely thought Trump would be more pro-Palestine, which, if it's your first election as an adult, is well within the realm of typical mistaken judgments.
When you're having this debate, you just need to make two points. One, Harris won the majority of the young vote, we'll know by how much when we get better data after Catalist and Pew analyses come out. Two, young people have more liberal views on almost everything according to polls on the issues.
how do you get the former out of this poll in particular? millennials (e.g., everyone age 30-44 right now) are still overwhelmingly anti-trump, more so than boomers, and x-ers (45-60) are the pro-trump ones.
Yeah, I meant more Millennials are pro Trump than are Gen Z. And also because there are more Millennials than any other generation, 42% of them supporting Trump is a big problem.
But you're right, Gen X is the biggest issue, in terms of %.
Yes and when you look at gender/generational breakdowns, GenX women were unique because they went for Harris more than any other generation. GenX men went for Trump bigly
Now that we have more stats, the last election was more defined by low voter turnout than anything else, right?
Gen Z didn’t swing right, it’s just that the only folks from that demo that did show up were the one’s who wanted to do harm to women and marginalized folks.
Pretty much. Liberals just want an excuse to go right as they always do it's time we stop falling for their lies and demand actually left wing politics
This narrative has never made any sense, because we can look at issue polls and see that Gen Z holds the most socially liberal views of any generation on almost everything.
We'll see how people voted after Catalist and Pew come out with their analyses, but Gen Z being the first to abandon the Trump honeymoon makes sense because they're the most liberal.
These are the people who think a 34-year-old dating a 26-year-old is literal abuse, a 19-year-old dating a 17-year-old is literal rape, and anyone who dates casually is a "gooner". They don't drink, they don't have sex, they're not having kids. Yeah, this tracks.
Almost none? Reddit ca. 2012 was a never ending torrent of posts about how Ron Paul was the savior America needed, and denialism about his election prospects that would make Bernie blush.
Gen Z outright supports DEI- Majority approval! The belief that whites, men, and Christians are discriminated against remains marginalized. Like, these folks are not suddenly "Anti-woke"
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Which to say if this poll is accurate, this drop in support is coming from 2003/4-2008
Also, Gen Z was not only still the most left leaning gen in 2024 but the most left-leaning gen by double digits- their Trump support catering so quickly isn’t surprising considering this
Having said that, here in Canada the % of Gen Z favouring Poilievre (51%) is way too high.
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But you're right, Gen X is the biggest issue, in terms of %.
Gen Z didn’t swing right, it’s just that the only folks from that demo that did show up were the one’s who wanted to do harm to women and marginalized folks.