As the new Captain America movie slowly crawls toward almost breaking even, I'm guessing that it just plain costs too much to make superhero movies for them to be profitable now, at least in most cases, and at this scale.
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To a degree I don’t think forcing lower budgets on these stories would be necessarily bad. Smaller scale stories that meant a bit more would be good! There’s a lot of expensive generic planet destruction. Tho the new Cap was a somewhat smaller story that was still wildly expensive. 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah, it's a big "where can they cut costs" question, and it's likely not with the directors or stars. It's production that would get it in the shorts, being paid less while being expected to produce the same or better. Sigh.
The big budgets reduce risk taking, too, which is bad for the art and source material. They just won't take as many chances when they have hundreds of millions into it. I'd love more variety in these movies, which I love as a genre, but am bored of most of them now.
I don't know. I think that one of the reasons that no one managed to make a good Fantastic Four story is precisely that the very best of the title in comics(Kirby, Byrne, Simonson) used too much grandiosity to be translated into film.
there’s probably a middle ground somewhere, but i feel it needs to be pointed out that part of the reason that japanese films can have such impressive results with such small budgets is that it’s notorious for its unfriendly working conditions.
when you add on top of that that the fixation on big budget films that play it safe robs small and midsized budget films of financial opportunities as well, i think there’s room to argue that overall, big budget blockbusters have some real negative impacts on the industry.
Or is it that the racism in our country is a deterrent from giving Anthony Mackie his due as Captain America?
Or is it the symbolism of the movie itself ?
Or is it just that going to the movies is too expensive for most people ?
I think for this one in particular it’s hard to read because the word of mouth has been pretty bad, not to mention the fact that the budget basically doubled because of the sheer amount of reshoots. Thunderbolts and FF will be clearer indicators I think
I feel like taking a bow for correctly predicting that Endgame was going to be the high water mark for Marvel, but also that it was so blindingly obvious I shouldn’t be too proud of myself.
These movies are budgeted to have to make within a spitting distance of a billion dollars to be considered profitable, and that only happens if the films become cultural phenomenons.
I swear that an entire movie (or two even!) worth of stuff was cut and reshot for C4P, and I'll never understand how studio heads keep their job with this amount of indecisiveness.
FANTASTIC FOUR will be the big test this year for Marvel, but if that underperforms that just means no more FF films. The *real* test will be the new Avengers movies, and if they fail that's what will cause Disney to rethink the whole superhero movie thing.
They might give it another shot with a new X-Men movie, and I think Spider-Man abd Deadool movies will likely continue to be profitable, but the Marvel Cinematic Universe as a whole will either be abandoned or *greatly* de-emphasized.
A Marvel superhero movie specifically about the multiverse was the #1 movie last year. The new Captain America is breaking even in its second week and it’s still #1. I don’t understand this relentless false argument that “no one wants to see these movies.”
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It's not a practical limit, it's bloat and waste.
You'd still save $100 million relative to the budget of Captain America: Brave New World.
The scale and scope of the issue is staggering.
i’ll also point out that hollywood has its own issues when it comes to labor as well.
Or is it the symbolism of the movie itself ?
Or is it just that going to the movies is too expensive for most people ?