I am convinced our dogs sometimes try to talk like us. Not suggesting for a moment that they get it right. They definitely know their name though. Cats too
I mean I absolutely know what you both mean, and at the same time this is news about a funded study where people were specifically looking for intelligent life on earth. It’s okay to be down on this stuff most of the time, but today was a win, yeah?
I think you misunderstand the point of what I was saying in reply to another reply. This wasn't meant to be a downer, just a cynical observation about how we could be doing MORE of this type of thing if not for greedy people!
No, I got it—and like I said, every other day of the year I agree with you. But today’s an exception. Today it went from “we could be doing this, period,” to “we could be doing more of this.”
we already live with alien life and the way humans behave towards it is how we'll behave towards anything else that comes along, unlikely as that prospect is
Anything else comes along and we’ll be in the position of the elephants and dolphins and chimps. Nothing to do but hope Sagan was right and only enlightened and peaceful cultures invent interstellar travel
I believe that the same way we can identify bird calls on Merlin app, we will soon be able to learn dog language &so many other animals. They are already understanding some whale communications. It is going to be awesome to talk to our pets (more).
Does this mean that, like, Elephant A has a name for Elephant B, or that Elephant A has a name that Elephants B-Z all know? Both are amazing, to be sure, I just wasn’t clear on this.
I disagree strongly with Guardian's decision to describe this as "AI." That's a pretty bad label in general but in the recent discourse it usually refers to large transformer-based neural networks, and this is something totally different, though I don't know how computationally intensive.
that's fair. it can be really hard to get people to use actual accurate terms, especially for tech stuff which most people have only very basic understanding of to start with!
Until recently they were calling this sort of thing "machine learning" (and a lot of people would say that's still too anthropomorphic). But it seems the dam has broken: LLMs are "AI" and I guess everything else in the world is too.
We already know that dolphins do, corvids do and cats do. The idea that the peoples who've lived around Elephants for millenia didn't know this is laughable. This is just another "white people 'discover' established knowledge"
Wait, it's confirmed in cats? I'd seen one of my cats make a sound that called over one other cat but not the rest, so I suspected so, but didn't know it was official.
I remember reading a story a while back about an elephant that was treated for injuries at a research center - later they figured out that it had communicated to other elephants that it was a safe place to go for medical assistance because they’d show up there with problems and wait for it to open
This was the only thing I was enthusiastic about AI (there was some medicine stuff, but well). I knew they where using it with whales but this is a pleasant surprise
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He lied on his background check
Hey @fbi, arrest this guy.
He's always coked up.
Perfectly encapsulates a lot of shit.
Perhaps we shouldn't read too much into that failure: it's a miracle of science that they managed to prove *any* part of this.