I renounced mine. Took a lot of time and cost a lot of money. Much easier if you don’t own companies, but it’s not easy or fast. Mine was officially done Feb 14 but took years. My timing just happened to be trendy.
I went so far as to make an appt @ the US Embassy to renounce during trump 1.0 but then I couldn't vote or say I'M AN AMERICAN! I'VE GOT RIGHTS! It's fun to be loud sometimes.
My grandmother did it in the 50s at 18 and never looked back. She would be disgusted with the United States right now. I'm sad she passed away during the first term, but she absolutely LOATHED trump and felt shame about her heritage back then.
You need to have 6 years of up to date US tax filing to apply for an appointment. Then you wait around 2 years for the appointment. Then you need 2 more years of tax filing to be fully out. If you are fully up to date it’s about 4 years.
I file taxes every year in both countries. Because the U.S. and Canada have an agreement, I only actually have to pay taxes in Canada. There isn't double taxation, at least in my case, since I work for a Canadian company.
I don't get it. I'm also a dual citizen, also embarrassed by Trump and his musky minions, and I love living in Canada, but I would never give up my U.S. citizenship. You keep voting, you keep making noise.
Why? He did it. He aligns w/ white supremacist beliefs & pushes anti semitic conspiracies. Look who he supported in German elections & who he follows on twitter. He thinks great replacement is real, his grandparents were actual Nazis, & his family made money from apartheid which he wants back.
Maybe read the history of the Nazis from 1925 (when the party began) to 1932 (when it took power) to 1939 (when it started killing Jews) to 1941 (when it started WW2 & the death camps.)
I think people should stay & fight, but not to think we're on a similar trajectory is failing to read the signs.
My wife is Jewish and I am a history major, my mother in law is a camp survivor and was getting a reparation check up to her death at 98 years old. I was replying to calling other members of bluesky a nazi. This format isn't the greatest for long discussions. We are all on the same team.
Thank you for keeping your citizenship to vote! That’s the first thing I thought of when I read this; what a precious, hard-won right they’re throwing away, one that can be helpful to Canada and Canadians. I hope more will choose your path!
I'm an American in the UK, and I will maintain my citizenship once my British citizenship is secured--as long as I don't lose my right to vote for US elections. That goes, and so do I.
So I'm not welcome because I'm also American? I vote (in both countries) and still contact my congressional reps over the crap that is going on in the U.S. Dont paint with broad strokes - it's exactly what Trump is doing in the U.S.
My family is Jewish and my family tree goes through Hungary and Poland. I fully understand where you are coming from, but I want to keep my tiny place at the table and fight this asshole.
In one of my tweets today, I explained my family history, German background, helping Jews, and fighting against fasism to the point that my family left Germany, in WWIII, out of the protest.
as has been said, I get the sentiment, but giving up your citizenship means not voting and trying to make things better. Society hasn't collapsed, despite what you might be told, things can get better, but not if you run away.
Look around and see all the people living in war zones because nobody else will take them.
Having more citizenships can open doors you never imagined you'd need opened. Citizenship is a terrible thing to renounce. It's renouncing so many people, from so many peoples. Renouncing a responsibility too
Canada should provide a $2,350 tax refund for these individuals.
“The U.S. is charging US$2,350 for individuals who are renouncing citizenship which is quite high compared to other countries,” said immigration lawyer Douglas Cowgill.
50% increase of what number. Numbers are tricky things. Got to know the full equation.
50% increase of 2? 50% of 100? There’s a big difference.
Sorry, I’m a skeptic learning from passes mistakes of optimism.
I keep seeing ads from immigration agencies that you can get Irish citizenship if your grandparents moved from Ireland, but it was my great-great-grandparents who came to the US.
I am American and my husband is a Canadian citizen. He speaks often now of moving back to Canada after being here 38 years. He never became a citizen. I would have no problem leaving the US but I would not renounce my citizenship.
Canada should end dual citizenship. The last step of naturalization should be the legal renunciation of any other citizenship. Canadians who seek a foreign citizenship would be making constructive renunciation of their Canadian citizenship, effective on their naturalization with the foreign power.
This is exactly what’s wrong. Sticking head in the sand rather than doing something about it. Vote and protest Americans. Don’t run away out of embarrassment honestly pathetic behaviour.
I'm afraid I agree w/ their decision. I don't have a choice but to stay here, though I'd go elsewhere in a heartbeat. I've gone to protests, voted/volunteered/donated for Dems, and feel like it makes no difference (and all my Congressional reps are GOP so my emails to them are essentially ignored).
But it feels like what's the point when so many people still voted for Trump knowing how vile he is, and the rest of us are up against the electoral college and systemic GOP voter suppression & gerrymandering (and right wing judges who let it happen). I'll keep fighting but it's discouraging.
As a dual citizen, renouncing is also the only way not to pay taxes to an IRS that is mining all of your personal info and SS number for a private company’s purposes. To be fair.
I do not understand the morality of not staying to fight if you aren't trying to protect someone whose life is at stake. Embarrassment is not a reason.
This is when your country, and all of humanity, need you engaged.
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But so totally understandable.
I AM CANADIAN
Slava Ukraini
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But at least you could get a new one to vote this admin out.
I think people should stay & fight, but not to think we're on a similar trajectory is failing to read the signs.
I would be embarrassed to be Murican. If you feel that you should wear your Nazi membership with pride, we should ship you back.
#Nazi #fasism
Sure enough, and unfortunately for the Blue Americans, holding US passport will be equivalent to swastika, and alliance to fascism.
Only in America...with MAGA and Trump.
Terrible
I'm embarrased too, but citizenship is more valuable than gold. Citizenship is a lifeline when worlds separate and collide, all throughout history.
Citizenship has saved so many families.
Citizenship can literally save your life and the lives of the people you love
Having more citizenships can open doors you never imagined you'd need opened. Citizenship is a terrible thing to renounce. It's renouncing so many people, from so many peoples. Renouncing a responsibility too
“The U.S. is charging US$2,350 for individuals who are renouncing citizenship which is quite high compared to other countries,” said immigration lawyer Douglas Cowgill.
50% increase of 2? 50% of 100? There’s a big difference.
Sorry, I’m a skeptic learning from passes mistakes of optimism.
Americans abroad can and should vote
....specifically against Trump
specifically if people can put a common purpose above person convenience
personally, I'm not optimistic
This is when your country, and all of humanity, need you engaged.