My mom’s parents grew up on Illinois farms. My mom remembers how they’d haul the cans of raw milk down to the road to be picked up by the milk truck for processing at the local dairy. None of them ever drank raw milk, because it was fcking dangerous. - ThreadSky

joeartguy.bsky.social • 9 days ago

My mom’s parents grew up on Illinois farms. My mom remembers how they’d haul the cans of raw milk down to the road to be picked up by the milk truck for processing at the local dairy.

None of them ever drank raw milk, because it was fcking dangerous.

Reposted from Bill Grueskin

“When it comes to .. raw milk, I want to be free to form a relationship with a local farmer, look him in the eyes, pet his cow, and then decide if I feel safe to drink the milk from his farm.”

— Casey Means, Trump’s latest surgeon-general nominee.

www.wsj.com/politics/pol...

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thaily.bsky.social•9 days ago

I drank raw milk, it was fucking delicious. Not something I'd necessarily recommend to anyone, mind. Especially not for people with kids?

joeartguy.bsky.social•9 days ago

The reason people stopped drinkkng raw milk is because the of the large number of diseases cattle can transmit directly to humans, after people figured out in the 19th century what actually caused diseases.

The taste you liked was the milk fat. Just buy unhomogenized milk, and skip the pathogens.

thaily.bsky.social•9 days ago

Oh I drank it at the farm I worked at, that was years ago so it's a non-issue now.
The unhomogenized stuff can be, sadly, tricky to find.

joeartguy.bsky.social•9 days ago

Raw milk can transmit animal diseases, like the bovine strain of tuberculosis which is close enough to infect humans. The first effective treatment for TB was when streptomycin was developed in 1946.

Before that the best treatment was to surgically collapse the lung to allow the lesions to heal.

loranskunky.bsky.social•9 days ago

The whole raw milk movement just fills me with rage as it just represents so much about how people’s dis-information becomes reality to them.

joeartguy.bsky.social•9 days ago

the freedom these people want is freedom from reality, as though you can breathe water if you just excercise and believe hard enough

equussilvermane.bsky.social•9 days ago

Unlike the raw cider movement, which is about the ability to pay a few $ for a gallon jug that self ferments into a tasty alcoholic beverage with little additional user intervention or government taxation.

joeartguy.bsky.social•9 days ago

making your own alcohol is I think generally safe, in part because it’s easy to get safe instructional kits and develop the necessary cottage industry expertise not to poison yourself, and in part because it’s alcohol so it kills most of its own pathogens :D

equussilvermane.bsky.social•9 days ago

Exactly, it's important not to conflate the two raw movements. Cider is just tax evasion.

joeartguy.bsky.social•9 days ago

I knew a guy who liked making his own mead. You could pretty much tell if a batch wasn’t going right, and the primary concern was adulteration of the very few base components.

It’s not like gambling whether one cow in the herd just got asymptomatic bovine TB which you’re now putting in your throat.

sanssouci.bsky.social•9 days ago

I heard of this particular and dangerous last fashion. I'm from a family of farmers and every single one knew you had to boil milk before consuming, EXPECIALLY if it was to be consumed by children.

doberdog.com•9 days ago

I worked with a guy who was a believer in raw milk. It was illegal to sell it, but he had connections to get it on the gray market. I didn't have the time and energy to debate him on why that was a bad idea.

joeartguy.bsky.social•9 days ago

well it’s probably safer now than it ever was before, since modern quick testing and Agriculture Dept regulations have made bovine pathogens as rare as possible

but since all that oversight is going away, that roulette table’s going to get less friendly day by day :/

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