Some of my local (and thus American) friends used to try to give me 24-hour times in texts and whatnot. Thankfully they got the hint pretty quickly when I started refusing to answer them until they gave it to me in AM/PM format.
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i never use analog clocks bc i don't have any but i didn't realize other people actually use 24 hour clock outside of like them being in the military or something
It's standard practice on railroads and in aviation in general. It's also really common outside the US. Saw it used all the time in train stations (and not by train employees, but on the schedule boards in the stations themselves) when I visited my ex in the UK
Physical clocks are marked in 12 distinct segments, not 24. I will take 24-hour time seriously when its proponents advocate for the widespread adoption of analog clocks divided into 24 segments.
If your only engagement with timekeeping involves the number in the corner of your phone or computer screen and you never use a standalone clock, I don’t care about your time opinions.
if analog clocks had a big AM/PM sign that toggled every 12 hours then maybe i could understand your point, but as it stands analog clocks are already ambiguous about which half of the day it is. might as well use a sensible standard like 24 hours when you wanna be precise:
much better to have very clear, unambiguous hours from 0 to 23 instead of trying to remember what damn time "12 AM/PM" even is... it's a kafkaesque nightmare to make something as important as communicating time ambiguous instead of just simple linear numbers. you cannot pay me to think in modulo 12
I'm not from America so the 24 hour format feels natural to me. Adding to that, I always had trouble with analog clocks, digital format always made more sense to me. Seeing time like 7 PM always fucks me up because I never expect the 7 to be an evening hour xd
my darling @fenny.moe is a dweeb like that and has all her devices set to 24hr time and it always throws me off in the car bc it affects ETA in carplay navigation and some shit like “19:58” looks more like a scary countdown timer than a time of day 😭 then I give up and look at time remaining instead
I think when I complain about 24-hour time people assume I'm saying I don't understand it, but like...no, it's pretty easy to add or subtract 12 hours in my head. I just really dislike it, because it's incompatible with the analog clocks we've been using for centuries.
This is one of those things where I cheat by just having a mental lookup table. I *could* mentally add or subtract 12 every time, but it was so much easier to just memorize which each of the numbers 13-23 corresponds to.
yeah that’s def more the ideal way to interact with it, given that’s how we interact with our recognition of 12hr time too; it just takes the familiarity of regular use first in order to get there
Fahrenheit/Celsius is one of those weird ones where I don't really have a preference for one or the other in and of itself, but I do think it's kind of rude and annoying not to use the one the people you're talking to will be familiar with.
At that point it just feels like you're deliberately making your communications less clear to try to make a point about something whoever you're talking to can't control anyway.
Seriously? lol. Okay, this is one thing I'm not with Fenny on. 12 hour time and Fahrenheit forever. God, I hate Celsius. At least I can sort of understand military time.
How do people raised on Fahrenheit start thinking in Celsius... I'm impressed, but I don't understand it.
I mean it’s not like it’s impossible; fahrenheit would be just as incomprehensible to be if I didnt grow up with it. these sort of systems only become useful with familiarity, bc exposure builds a reference scale in your mind over time. I have a rudimentary mental scale for celsius, but no precision
but yeah ppl’s experiences with these systems are v individualized, and I don’t think it’s helpful to ascribe an inherent superiority to a measurement system outside of scientific contexts, any more than one would over language barriers. standardization would have some benefits, but what works works
That's all true. It's just frustrating when I come across Americans who insist Fahrenheit is dumb and we should use Celsius, because it's like "why does this matter? It's just numbers I can understand temperatures with. What's the point of switching and confusing people?"
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I.e. 8 o'clock could mean two distinctly different times, but 0800 and 2000 aren't able to be confused with one another. It's more precise
And "nineteen hundred" has, like, only one more syllable than "seven o'clock" or "seven pee ehmm". It's not that much more cumbersome at all really
How do people raised on Fahrenheit start thinking in Celsius... I'm impressed, but I don't understand it.