Oh, and is way more common for grad programs to enforce this, because grad students are expected to teach in English. Again, usually enforced more often for international students whose native language is non English.
They're GRE / GMAT and are a standard for many universities doing PGR in STEM. In addition of requiring English they charge $200 upfront so, tough luck if you're from background without substantial savings.
Oh yeah. GRE is something I’m not a fan of. I’m not sure if you’ve ever taken it, but I would argue that is not a test of English proficiency but a bizarre test of knowing obscure prefixes and suffixes. Thankfully some unis are moving towards abolishing this requirement…
…the only argument I’ve heard FOR it is that if the rest of your grad application isn’t that strong, but your GRE is strong, it could be a plus for your application. Still not a fan of it, regardless.
Many unis do also have their own internal exams for students once accepted (for graduate teaching purposes)…I thought that’s what you were originally posting about.
Nah, entry level stuff. I never had to do any of this tosh at any stage of my PGR, and I'm so glad, I'm too poor and not Anglo enough to even be granted an entry to these spaces.
…I had undergrads who could barely read and were just passed through the system to college. I do wish there was something in the system (like a proficiency exam) that could have gotten them additional help and set them on a more successful path than struggling in semester one and flunking out
I'm honestly a little shocked that GRE is being from people from the States and Canada. Of the around 20-ish grad programs I've looked at across Canada and the States none of them had it as a requisite. I will say however it's honestly a good requirement if English is not someone's first...
Language as we're expected to read, speak, and teach in that language. Is the GRE the answer? Absolutely not. But I'm not against the idea of making sure people are able to speak the language of the place they're applying to.
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