I feel like it’s pretty simple and in fact easy to reconcile “Trump lied about promises he made” and “the Democrats offered people basically nothing” in a way that’s productive to politics moving forward.
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Democrats offered quite a lot, and also promised not to gut the things currently being gutted. The paltform and stump speeches had a wide range of policies that would have hugely expanded public benefits & made the rich & corporations pay their fair share. Not sure why you're claiming otherwise.
Reinstating the childcare tax credit, expanding medicare/Medicaid to cover home care, $40B to help local govs address low housing supply, $25k down payment assistance for first time first gen homebuyers, a bill to provide tuition-free public college to most people, continued implementation of IRA...
... which is the largest climate bill to date in the world, anti-gouging price controls on groceries, a tax on unrealized gains for the hyperwealthy, increasing the corporate tax rate, increasing the federal minimum wage, guaranteed paid family leave, expanded student debt relief.
These are all publicly documented things that can be readily found with just a few minutes of basic search. So yes the claim that "Democrats offered nothing" is objectively and transparently horseshit.
this is why i can’t really find joy in dunking on trump voters getting the fell for it again award, like sure trump is an obvious charlatan but the other guys weren’t even lying about giving you something they just said eat shit. biden at least lied to me about giving me 2000 dollars the first time
You are not on point imo. The issue was that Trump propagandized inflation, the threats of “illegal immigrants,” and appealed to white workers who felt disenfranchised by DEI hires. None of them recognized the danger in Trump’s “concepts”.
Charles. Respectfully; shut the fuck up; we went from "nothing will fundamentally change" Joe Biden to "i will be just like Joe biden; doing genocide, being cruel to immigrants and helping business owners (assholes) Kamala Harris. They fucking blew it.
What has to happen to someone to believe ACA would be better than the system that works for all of the other industrialized nations (like the one I live in)?
They’re either lying and are comfortable enough with ACA to not want to change it, or... 🤔
But also the argument for M4A was not started again by just some random perosn but a Democratic Gouvernour?
What is the point of democrats shouting each other in the food over policy proposals?
the most Libertarian major policy institute on the planet said M4A would save a massive amount of money and lead to better outcomes, our health insurance industry should not exist on a fundamental level
Yeah like if you're still in the Post-Mortem stage trying to figure out how we got here then you're just checked out completely. We need a different group of people, and we need them to offer something meaningful.
This is the actual problem. They did do that but between the oligarchs controlling the media and wreckers like you who lie about it endlessly, the voters never figured it out
I’m a big supporter of independent media and I’m furious at the inaction of Dem leaders to combat this miserable information environment but it would also help if ostensible ‘leftists’ would stop lying through their teeth about the their nominal allies against fascism.
the way in which these "cheaper" things were offered was through dubious tax credits and deregulations that were market based. people instinctively know that market based solutions are BS and never deliver what they promise
Are these "nominal allies" against fascism the same people who were enthusiastically sending police to brutalize college kids who were protesting genocide?
Yes because the ACA is better. And you don’t need 60 fucking votes to get it. You don’t need 60 votes to expand it more. That’s why it’s better. Stop Demanding it. more Democrats so we can expand
It's easier for people to blame both sides for some reason. It's very tiring. Harris ran a great campaign and everyone said so until she didn't win..then hindsight is 20/20
Yeah I thought she was running a great camping. And I’m going to keep saying that she was running a great campaign and I think Bernie Sanders tried his best to get people to turn out. And then AOC did her best. Think everyone did…
The effort to just memory hole Harris's policies that she campaigned on and talked about extensively is just amazing. It was last year, not decades ago. The campaign they claim she ran, and the one she ran are completely different universes.
Wow you mean the best way to beat a consummate liar and habitual over promiser isn’t to go “things will be the same, get excited for nothing to be better or different at all!” I sure wish every political analyst who said the democrats ran a great campaign would learn this!
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They’re either lying and are comfortable enough with ACA to not want to change it, or... 🤔
What is the point of democrats shouting each other in the food over policy proposals?
anyways that’s about all I have to say here
I didn’t pay anything personally to get medicaid…
https://www.sanders.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/options-to-finance-medicare-for-all.pdf
you might be on an unlevel playing field which is why you need to actually more aggressive than platitudes that go uncovered and have built-in caveats
https://bsky.app/profile/kenklippenstein.bsky.social/post/3lj743cmunc22