The so-called "centre-right" has collapsed. The cordon sanitaire which existed to separate the "centre-right" and radical or far right has collapsed. New column 👇 www.theguardian.com/commentisfre... - ThreadSky

owenjones.bsky.social • 66 days ago

The so-called "centre-right" has collapsed.

The cordon sanitaire which existed to separate the "centre-right" and radical or far right has collapsed.

New column 👇

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/dec/27/centre-right-extremism-the-west-moderates-populist

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gordonhudson.com•66 days ago

The Overton window has shifted. You can see that in Labour's priorities and the low level of interest in left wing alternatives. The far right's plan seems to be: destroy Tories, destroy Labour, get Reform in, they fail on immigration. Public look for a strong leader...

greyarea22.bsky.social•66 days ago

Are you reading this @teamlabouruk.bsky.social?

Because you should be.

Change the voting system now or we all get fucked later

zloty.bsky.social•66 days ago

And as the old Centre Right embraces the Far Right, Starmer’s Labour becomes the new Centre Right.

sodem.bsky.social•65 days ago

Is that Donald's portrait in the background in celebration of his first test century at Lords? Oh sorry Owen I forgot you're Welsh.

delol.bsky.social•66 days ago

Fascism is the result of the inevitable decay of liberal capitalism ,where the class struggle is frozen and substituted by the idea of nation
We are heading to fascismo once again with the help of the centrist neoliberal establishment

weirdprimate.bsky.social•65 days ago

We wouldn’t be where we are now if people were given quality alternatives to fascism. It seems like the choice is between neoliberalism and fascism both of which are terrible choices for the majority of people. Our “far left” is the centre of forty years ago.

colorblah.bsky.social•65 days ago

Funny that we would use the French expression "cordon sanitaire" while the French have been pioneers in crossing it en masse...

shl0mo.bsky.social•66 days ago

Wrong.

julianle.bsky.social•66 days ago

A disappointingly shallow account by a writer who I admire. It's juvenile to write off the history and philosophy of the Tory party in these terms, implying that any alternative to 'socialism' is a fake and/or monstrous. We need a better understanding of the success of the new right than this.

corah.bsky.social•66 days ago

Uh huh. That's how we got the brexit vote. Tories became blukip, then the brexit party, all in an attempt to fend of farage. That didn't work. All we got was the faragification of politics.

diversityisstrenth.bsky.social•65 days ago

When people cheerfully chuck terms like left/right/liberal/far right/hard right/extreme right/progressive - it would help if there was an accepted definition of what they mean. ( it's all rubbish ).

nnnoway.bsky.social•66 days ago

It's a Wonderful life was scrutinised by the FBI the establishment does not like people being shown alternatives to the status quo

edtrainsociety.bsky.social•65 days ago

Symptoms of US anti-immigrant Tanton Network (see Migration Watch) 'architecture of influence' in Anglosphere; inc. Bannon wooed Farage 10+ years ago, more ageing voters vs working age, 'great replacement' & influence of Murdoch eg. RW MSM nudged by Fox, GBNews

https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/if-you-are-business-fox-news-you-are-hook-its-white-nationalism

edtrainsociety.bsky.social•65 days ago

Dec. white nationalist & fossil fuel ZPG Zero Population Growth John 'passive eugenics' Tanton 'racist architect of modern anti-immigration movement' (SPLC) & 'most influential unknown man in US' (NYT/Chavez) with tentacles across Anglosphere

https://educationtrainingsociety.wordpress.com/2024/10/28/neo-eugenics-influence-of-john-tantons-white-nationalist-network-on-murdoch-fox-right-wing-media-trump-gop-uk-tories-anglosphere-and-europe/

slamb.bsky.social•66 days ago

Garage said the truth is being withheld from us about Southport, methinks the same applies here

ambarosie2.bsky.social•66 days ago

Whats the Starmer govt then?

kaynells.bsky.social•66 days ago

One key thing EVERYONE must note is that the mega rich yield to Trump in the US prior to the election, and Farage and Labour here because they must have their way.

It's time populations had politicians that are answerable to them. But realise the level of resistance that causes.

It's necessary

diversityisstrenth.bsky.social•65 days ago

Kamala Harris spent 4 times more on her campaign than Trump

kaynells.bsky.social•66 days ago

Everyone should have seen our Labour government in action now... there isnt a right left politics anymore than there is those that will force the floodgates of wealth to the few wider and those that will actually close them.

Which side are you on?

kaynells.bsky.social•66 days ago

The shape of politics for the next decade(which seems like an eternity, and then possibly more?

Indestructible shitstain that is the far right.

I hope we are looking more at the left, organisation, unity, pro-acivity of the left. Rather than doom scrolling in the backseat of the far right.

dylans1.bsky.social•66 days ago

This is all kind of terrifying.

We have obviously learned nothing from history . We are about to repeat it all over again. The nationalism, the strong leader, the repression, the scapegoats, the persecution, the deportations, the war, the extermination camps.

Its all going to shit.

wendelschwab.bsky.social•66 days ago

This is what happens when society spends copious amounts of energy attacking and discrediting the left.

This is the world liberals created.

suelli.bsky.social•61 days ago

What makes you think people care enough about the Left, to try to discredit them? I know some of the people who have been accused of this, and they are far too busy to be bothered. They just see them as an unnecessary distraction.

wendelschwab.bsky.social•61 days ago

The whole apparatus of the right-wing media ecosphere is designed to try to discredit the left and only hear from right-wing voices.

That's why they bitch so much about the "woke" and "DEI."

And liberals/centrist fall in line.

suelli.bsky.social•61 days ago

My parents taught me that if was ever going to achieve anything in an imperfect world, it is no use sitting around complaining about the World being against me, and that I would have to do the best I could. It is a lesson the Left don’t seem to have understood.

marchad.bsky.social•66 days ago

Why, after decades of predominantly right wing, capitalist friendly governments, do so many of the western population feel that’s what needed is a more extreme right wing government?

jimblesnarks.bsky.social•66 days ago

They don't. They are manipulated to think that way, and who are the options? All are at least right wing. It is all deliberate.

suelli.bsky.social•61 days ago

Left wing repression is virtually identical to right wing repression. The Holocaust, and the Holodomor were carried out by governments claiming to be from opposite ends of the political spectrum. The Jacobin, Robespierre, was responsible for the Reign of Terror, which saw 17,000 guillotined.

donalkinsale.bsky.social•66 days ago

Hard to argue with anything there.

robinoflocksley.bsky.social•54 days ago

Why do I keep getting videos suggested of people tearing you a new one

More bad news .. man I almost feel sorry for you all .. or I would if you were human

https://bsky.app/profile/robinoflocksley.bsky.social/post/3lfbg7qabnk2q

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