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arnorosenfeld.bsky.social • 4 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/kateconger.com/post/3l3lap4emxe2s

if you need every news story you read to end with “and that is bad, actually” might I gently suggest you’re looking for takes rather than information and your needs might be better met elsewhere

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thembo.bsky.social•4 days ago

Quoting an NYT writer isn't the most solid way to back up your journalistic chops, friend.

therunepony.bsky.social•4 days ago

Actually, the current state of politics makes a very strong case that people DO need to bold "and that's bad, actually".

Uncritically regurgitating stories and/or quotes, especially when patently insane or flat out factually wrong, isn't journalism, it's stenography.

needmoreclones.bsky.social•4 days ago

Are you going to pretend we can't read the rest of your thread

alyseinca.bsky.social•4 days ago

exactly, a clear “take”, “This is a kind of persecution, such as it is, that's really hard to remedy with any of the tools we normally use to fight discrimination — and I'd argue it's a concern that dovetails with anti-Israel sentiment on campus and elsewhere”.

donotreadbad.bsky.social•4 days ago

Yeah, we are looking takes, YOUR takes.

You know where you dismiss every single left-leaning person as being “an elite”?

pastapilled.hastwt.net•4 days ago

YOU SAID THIS IS BAD FOR SOCIAL BONDS

bullix.bsky.social•3 days ago

🤣🤣🤣

thekilt.bsky.social•4 days ago

You're talking up an article that uncritically accepts the theses that bodily autonomy and people's right not to be governed by another's religious views are debatable propositions. And it presents this faction's self-entitled whining as something new, when it's been on display for 20 years or more.

thekilt.bsky.social•4 days ago

In short, this isn't news.

thepopper.bsky.social•4 days ago

"...been on display for 20 years or more."

More. Definitely more.

bullix.bsky.social•3 days ago

45 years, I’d say. Moral Majority was neither but loved to punish those “secular elites” by which we mean gay people society already hated.

cynnerzero.bsky.social•4 days ago

40ish. Since before Reagan

sotsogm.bsky.social•3 days ago

I was gonna say. I'm in my fifties and grew up with this crap. Republicans have been running for office on it literally my entire life.

smollusk.bsky.social•4 days ago

I don't need it from every article I just want it from an article that is about Actual Fucking Monsters complaining they're not welcome at Family Thanksgiving anymore, and I'd like it from you thread that is 100% about how treating hate as abhorrent is a problem and 0% about the hate

smollusk.bsky.social•4 days ago

you call not wanting to be around people who want my entire family dead "persecution" against *the people who want my entire family dead*, don't in any way qualify it or even admit explicitly that those are very obviously the people being talked about, and *this* is your fucking answer? THIS?

bullix.bsky.social•3 days ago

Yup. This is the same kind of morally bankrupt bullshit that people pull when they just wanna get back to the serious business of persecuting the icky minorities in peace

adamkobiela.bsky.social•4 days ago

When you spend 7 skeets equating them? yeah a value judgment would go a long way to show that you are capable of recognizing values.

isabellesogay.bsky.social•4 days ago

This is bullshit deflection when you make seven posts following the initial posting of the article where you editorialize. You gave a take, and this article is also a take. You don’t get to hide behind “I’m just presenting neutral information”.

bullix.bsky.social•3 days ago

Thank you! The moral cowardice and the intellectual dishonesty of this guy making a whole fucking 5 paragraph essay about the plight of the Christianist bigots and then turning around and pretending he isn’t here to opine. Dude just say you love bigots and be honest about it, lol

isabellesogay.bsky.social•3 days ago

And the article itself isn’t neutral, it’s yet another NYT “won’t someone think about the poor [people making life worse for literally everyone]” piece.

bullix.bsky.social•3 days ago

Yup. Just another entry in an endless round of disingenuous horse shit

senorincognito69.bsky.social•4 days ago

so in your anti-semitism reporting whatever anti-semitism is good or bad is up to the reader? 🥴

nlbray.bsky.social•4 days ago

This isn't a news story though. This is a collection of very stupid takes being passed along without criticism.

There is zero reason to act as a stenographer for this moronic bullshit.

islandofreil.bsky.social•4 days ago

Extremely disingenuous quoting, given that your entire framing is sympathetic to Christian nationalists

goldingroberts.bsky.social•4 days ago

Hey Arno, one Jew to another, maybe don't use terms like "the secular elite" when you are supposed to be in charge of covering antisemitism and Jewish Institutions for the Forward? It gives people the impression that you don't understand what dogwhistles are.

thepopper.bsky.social•4 days ago

I was just thinking the same damn thing.

freighttraindisco.bsky.social•4 days ago

Maybe you can also explain to him he has zero business misunderstanding basic Christian tenets in his desperation.

dustbinfilm.bsky.social•4 days ago

I don't agree that this opinion piece is a news story

pebbles.gay•4 days ago

never saying that bad things are bad actually is a take too u dingdong, it's how the media sleepwalked the public to where we are now

ofc kate says this, she works for the fucking nyt

plumeriasophy.bsky.social•4 days ago

i'm not sure that news outlets should really be guiding interpretations that directly. shouldn't the responsibility also fall on people to take the information they're given and think critically about it? i don't think just handing conclusions to people would make the current situation better

smollusk.bsky.social•4 days ago

No if something is bad it is a reporter's responsibily to say so

That's still fact

And all of everything is biased, you *still* have to think critically about it, but refusing to be intentional with your bias just means you're gonna say things you didn't consider instead

plumeriasophy.bsky.social•3 days ago

that's an interesting perspective, but why does someone need to explicitly state their conclusion in order to be aware of their bias?

smollusk.bsky.social•3 days ago

guess they don't, but if they're aware but don't say it, they're hiding it from the reader, which makes critical assessment by the reader harder

smollusk.bsky.social•3 days ago

like, an artcle being clearly biased, instead of, like this thread, attempting to hide a bias that's definitely there, just means it's harder to accoint for that bias

morrisnormal.bsky.social•4 days ago

This isn't going how you wanted it to, huh Arno

shiftercat.bsky.social•4 days ago

And you wonder why the NYT is hemorrhaging subscriptions.

aliceking.bsky.social•4 days ago

Try being an adult and using your own words

jalixe.bsky.social•4 days ago

We see where their views of trans people lead to. It doesn't lead to Christians being magically compassionate about trans people via prayer, it leads to their Christian president legalizing rape of trans prisoners.

obol.bsky.social•3 days ago

To be clear, the practice of v-coding--putting a trans woman in a cell with an especially violent man so he has someone to rape and brutalize freely instead of venting his lack of inhibitions on the rest of the prison populace--predates Trump by, many, many years. Trump has just made it easier to do

jalixe.bsky.social•3 days ago

Just showing that these evangelicals are entirely disingenuous when they claim that it is about their faith.

There's nothing in the Bible that supports rape of trans people, but they will do it anyway because their entire goal is to make minorities suffer out of amusement.

tonya77444.bsky.social•3 days ago

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bullix.bsky.social•3 days ago

This is not actually a reply to the substance of your article. This is you seeking to meme your way out of a thoughtful reply

insipidmoniker.bsky.social•3 days ago

You're the one that made the claim that people disliking views that you hold is a form of persecution, and that's one fuck of a take.

freighttraindisco.bsky.social•4 days ago

What I learned is Kate is a transphobic weasel.

jasondtx.bsky.social•4 days ago

The post he's quoting from her is six months old and has nothing at all to do with transgender people or the story in this thread.

freighttraindisco.bsky.social•4 days ago

Do you just reply when a pretty lady is in the pfp?

jasondtx.bsky.social•4 days ago

Huh?

tristra.bsky.social•4 days ago

Dude shove the just asking question crap up your ass and fuck off back to X

themilfmag.net•4 days ago

no like y ru bringing it up at all

nothings.bsky.social•4 days ago

You're the one who uncritically repeated "the secular elite" as if that was actually what it's about. Don't even need to read the rest of your thread to side-eye it.

heather-alexis.bsky.social•4 days ago

lol. You lying prick. You refer to the film festival no longer wishing to be associated with a transphobic church as an "issue" that needs solving later on in your thread. *You* are saying "and that's bad actually". You just can't handle the criticism.

thewanderingjew.bsky.social•4 days ago

the article VERY much seems to believe that the secular elites are real

ryanfrommyspace.bsky.social•4 days ago

or maybe, just maybe, this is a bad article and not news worthy.

smullins3000.bsky.social•4 days ago

Yeah, that's abject nonsense because journalists and news outlets are actually very good at making it clear when they think something is bad. It's just that a lot of them don't think that persecuting LGBTQ people is bad.

bullix.bsky.social•3 days ago

Arno feels attacked by this

smullins3000.bsky.social•3 days ago

I'm persecuting him by not agreeing.

bullix.bsky.social•3 days ago

Me too

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