Eighty-four university students trying to reject animal products were tracked over a month as they attempted a “plant-forward” diet while living with their families. Spoiler: those who felt supported ate fewer animal products. Those who didn’t, didn’t. open.substack.com/pu... - ThreadSky

herbivoreclub.bsky.social • 3 days ago

Eighty-four university students trying to reject animal products were tracked over a month as they attempted a “plant-forward” diet while living with their families.

Spoiler: those who felt supported ate fewer animal products. Those who didn’t, didn’t.

https://open.substack.com/pub/herbivoreclub/p/when-veganism-threatens-family-dinner

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bobsnakeplissken.bsky.social•3 days ago

As much as I sympathize with veganism and vegetarianism, I think some ppl just cannot have such a diet and remain healthy.

Most of my genetics are from places where overly vegetable and grain heavy diets are just not really possible. I feel I need at least fish and eggs.

herbivoreclub.bsky.social•3 days ago

Humans have very little genetic variation due to bottlenecks. Most variation in how we respond to food is down to the gut microbiome, not genetics — and the microbiome is highly adaptable. It shifts within weeks based on what we eat regularly, not what our great-grandparents ate.

bobsnakeplissken.bsky.social•3 days ago

I do not deny that gut biome plays a major role, however, if you don't have certain bacteria you have to get it from somewhere.

Also, pointing to a lack of genetic diversity affecting digestion is like denying that certain cancers run in families. Nutritional science is massively complex.

herbivoreclub.bsky.social•2 days ago

Most of the gut bacteria people rely on actually come from the food we eat, think fermented foods like yoghurt, kimchi, or raw plants, not fixed genetics. Regularly consuming these introduces and sustains beneficial microbes. I did this myself to treat IBD.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6835969/

herbivoreclub.bsky.social•2 days ago

As for cancers running in families, yes, some do. But only 5–10% of cancers are due to inherited genetic mutations; the vast majority, 90–95%, stem from shared lifestyles, which do run in families and environmental factors.

https://oncodaily.com/oncolibrary/cancer-hereditary

herbivoreclub.bsky.social•2 days ago

Humans are very genetically similar to each other, and our lineage for over 50 million years is predominantly plant eating. There's no data to support the idea that anybody but a tiny minority of disabled individuals can not thrive on plants. The opposite is indicated with better health outcomes.

darlingkillers.bsky.social•3 days ago

I was never supported, not by friends, not by family, but fvck 'em, I have a deep anarchist rebellious internal nature & I know I'm right & wouldn't fathom harming animals, so I just kept at it, & now it's almost 20 yrs later & one person has gone plant based out of them all, but that's it

fruitlover64.bsky.social•3 days ago

It was hard going to family events during the holidays for the first year I was a teenager when I first stop eating dead animals over 53 years ago but my Parents had no problem most of the food I ate growing up was a lot of pasta and chickpeas and lentils stuffed peppers with rice not a lot of meat.

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