This development bears close scrutiny Republicans have a 219-215 edge in the House But they will lose 2 members to the Trump administration So it’ll be 217-215 If Mike Turner flips parties-or just wants to make the GOP pay That makes it 216-216 And Republicans won’t be able to pass ANYTHING - ThreadSky

axidentaliberal.bsky.social • 90 days ago

This development bears close scrutiny

Republicans have a 219-215 edge in the House

But they will lose 2 members to the Trump administration

So it’ll be 217-215

If Mike Turner flips parties-or just wants to make the GOP pay

That makes it 216-216

And Republicans won’t be able to pass ANYTHING

Reposted from Aaron Rupar

Raskin on Mike Turner getting ousted: "The autocrats in Mar-a-Lago don't want him. The autocrats in Moscow don't want him ... he's extremely popular with Democrats and who knows what's gonna happen at this point."

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nivula.bsky.social•89 days ago

Let's find Mike!

photoline.bsky.social•90 days ago

Johnson grovelling for Dem support will be the norm for another 2 years. Bring on the midterms and Trump's future impeachment.

janettes-999.bsky.social•89 days ago

Mike Turner is a decent guy. If he wants to switch parties, we’ll take him!

pennyflynn.bsky.social•89 days ago

Turner could be a hero in history and make up for a lot.

palchik.bsky.social•90 days ago

I’ve never understood why a faction of non-MAGA R’s and non-“woke” D’s don’t just ditch their parties and form a small but powerful centrist block in congress. In a closely divided congress, they would instantly become the most powerful party because NOTHING would pass without their support. Why not

jeffreyschmeffrey.bsky.social•89 days ago

Makes too much sense

crucialwax.com•89 days ago

Bernie sanders has spoken about a version of this. Knowing that in some red places, an independent can do very well against a maga candidate. Not cookie cutter candidates. Custom fo each area.

beege4.bsky.social•88 days ago

Taking it a step further.

redpoppy2.bsky.social•90 days ago

Stop talking out loud about it and just go do it. Will you guys ever learn

blogoftheirown.bsky.social•90 days ago

Go do what?

monkeybrennan.bsky.social•90 days ago

“It” stupid!!!!!!!11!!!

1ofmanythoughts.bsky.social•90 days ago

##WRSF

micahbergdale.bsky.social•90 days ago

I hope he considers caucusing with the Dems but we need to focus on flipping these 3 vacancies. As a reminder with Alabama 2017 anything can happen in special elections if Dems vote. Flipping 3 seats takes the House but even just 1 seat makes it that much harder for GOP to push their extreme agenda.

novarockyzoe.bsky.social•90 days ago

“If Dems vote”.

How many couldn’t bring themselves to vote in an important presidential election? I am tired of hoping.

micahbergdale.bsky.social•90 days ago

Again I refer you to Alabama 2017. The most Republican state in the country elected a Democrat Senator. Special elections are by their nature low turnout events.

wendygirl9.bsky.social•90 days ago

Trump wanted Turner removed from the Intel Committee before the Patel and Gabbard hearings.

leslietalbot.bsky.social•89 days ago

Those hearings are happening in the Senate. Turner is in the House.

wiscmarine.bsky.social•90 days ago

Crushing the American government benefits Trump and Putin. We should probably stop thinking about a normal reality and think about how Trump gets total control without others' interference.

deedle21.bsky.social•89 days ago

Yeah, Turner flipping isn't going to happen.

tischdad.bsky.social•90 days ago

He has shown courage and a sense of right and wrong (politics aside). Let’s see how far that holds.

shurta.bsky.social•90 days ago

That would be a blessing.

kilocharlie237.bsky.social•89 days ago

When was the last time a Republican member of the US Congress switched to the Democrats? ... About 24 years ago. 😆

dingodingo14.bsky.social•90 days ago

Turner is very conservative. The best we could hope for is for him to become independent, IMO. His party has turned on him. I think he'll serve out his term but not run for re-election in 2026.

filteredrawjenn.bsky.social•90 days ago

Which makes him disposable to republicans. 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️ They don’t even have to primary him.

yvescristin.bsky.social•90 days ago

Maybe Trump and his henchmen will do without the opinion of Congress and the constitution? Isn't that what he wanted to do in 2020? But today he will have the police and the army....

midwesternmama.bsky.social•90 days ago

🤞🤞🤞

dcnats.bsky.social•90 days ago

lindapal.bsky.social•90 days ago

May I call him Speaker Jeffries?

this-is-unserious.bsky.social•89 days ago

unserious dems will fold, treat the next 4 yrs as business as usual

frumboldt.bsky.social•89 days ago

Wouldn't that be great.......?

mattjohnston.bsky.social•90 days ago

Say he’s so angry that he decides he wants to pursue a motion to vacate the chair and can get 4 others (I believe there needs to be 5 of the majority party in the current rules) to join him. We could be looking at a Jefferies speakership that the gop couldn’t do anything about for at least a time.

chuckbeasley.bsky.social•90 days ago

What sense did it make to fire their best guy?

emmabrody.bsky.social•89 days ago

Turner, sadly, isn't the kind of guy who'll flip that way.
Wish he was, though.

justiceprevails.bsky.social•89 days ago

VP has tie breaker.

baxie71.bsky.social•89 days ago

No, that's just in the Senate.

ethicking.com•89 days ago

In the Senate, not the House. Under House rules, ties mean no.

justiceprevails.bsky.social•89 days ago

I knew that. My brain wasn’t thinking 🤦🏻‍♀️ lol

confusedpenguin.bsky.social•89 days ago

And they shouldn't be able to pass anything if that is the case. No bipartisan "reaching out hand" BS unless tied to VERY solid tradeoffs clearly and publicly skewed against Trump and his oligarch friends.

jasonemry.bsky.social•90 days ago

trump will just do everything illegally, through back channels, or maybe even through the front door. scotus will protect him. the gop will lie for him. and no one will stop him.

pfeifferpack.bsky.social•90 days ago

Possibly our only hope for now

theted.bsky.social•89 days ago

baxie71.bsky.social•89 days ago

Please, Mike Turner. I am begging you as a fellow Ohioan and lover of America, PLEASE switch sides and help us defeat fascism. 🙏

evieeternal.bsky.social•90 days ago

Yeah that sure would be cool. Too bad it wont happen in a thousand years.

kurtrexcooper.bsky.social•90 days ago

Find a Democratic Robber Baron to get him to flip parties.

mbowen.bsky.social•90 days ago

🥳

veryolympia.bsky.social•90 days ago

How nice. There's always a glimpse of sunshine in the storm clouds if you know where to look.

dudouski120.bsky.social•90 days ago

Lets all give Turner a donation

johnnynovio.bsky.social•89 days ago

Turner flipping to Dem would be interesting but not likely, he's become a non-Trumper.

pjbdc.bsky.social•89 days ago

How long will that last until those vacancies are filled?

baxie71.bsky.social•89 days ago

Good question.

jarmilab.bsky.social•90 days ago

That's a scenario which we wish for.

pcrritesgood.bsky.social•90 days ago

If he really wants to keep a seat on that committee I am sure Jeffries will oblige.

igneous.bsky.social•90 days ago

4 years of wishful thinking is going to get old fast

yeetski.bsky.social•90 days ago

I hate being cynical, but being a Dem makes it kind of a bodily function

tccschreiner.bsky.social•90 days ago

yeah

igneous.bsky.social•90 days ago

a republican is definitely going to do the right thing this time

iamjniles.bsky.social•88 days ago

Wouldn't R's still have the win though, since vp is republican, and vp would vote in favor of any GOP BS, thus breaking any ties.

americapatrick100.bsky.social•89 days ago

I’m not doing “ if, if, IF….” For 4+ years. Congress will fold. They always do. Dems will play nice, MAGA will steal their lunch money. Dems will pay them to get it back.

acanadianboomer.bsky.social•89 days ago

So the rainbow, I'd there is one, is when these buffoons get appointed the house could flip leading to 4 years of 💙💙 shenanigans. #Blueresist

lauriekafka.bsky.social•90 days ago

He is not going to change parties. It would be great if he did, but it’s just not going to happen. They all seem to be Dems after leaving office though…

vibr84me.bsky.social•90 days ago

It doesn't fucking matter- he will just do it as executive action - it will go to the Supreme Court and take months and then he will still do stupid shit. You need to do preventative and California and New York have just say no - stop submitting all federal payments - just say no

tombrueggemann.bsky.social•90 days ago

It would be a short term gain, but sure love it. Or - Mike DeWine appoints him to Vance's seat. Trump would hate that, hate it more because he wants Vivak Ramaswamy to get it, & it would make Mike Johnson squirm.

morpheusismyfriend.bsky.social•88 days ago

Vice President breaks the tie.

flizzer.bsky.social•87 days ago

In the senate.

morpheusismyfriend.bsky.social•86 days ago

Ah yes. Thanks.

discrimens.bsky.social•90 days ago

Until the Governors appoint Republicans to the two vacant seats.

dsmdexter.bsky.social•89 days ago

They have executive orders, they don't need to pass anything. Quit thinking that they have an interest in governing. They want to rule.

maledicta.bsky.social•90 days ago

Republicans don't switch to become Democrats. It just doesn't happen. The idea of supporting too many rights for too many people is unthinkable.

farmgurlkp83.bsky.social•89 days ago

🤞🤞🤞

markh59.bsky.social•90 days ago

Good grief. You guys are still playing this game?

Turner is a republican. They never do the right thing.

Stop.

article19cdo.bsky.social•90 days ago

Miserable McWhiney has entered the chat

markh59.bsky.social•90 days ago

Feel free to keep thinking republicans will save the day for you.

article19cdo.bsky.social•89 days ago

Who is thinking that? Get a better attitude, you'll feel better ....

arrest-them-all.bsky.social•89 days ago

#DeathSantis has already appointed someone to fill Rubio's seat.

gamerman-x1.bsky.social•90 days ago

I admire your optimism in a time of cynicism and doubt, but those are some big ifs.

lola18.bsky.social•89 days ago

Either way 217-215 or 216-216 this is going to be our weekly shit show!
Dems must not give in to their demands!!!!
Speaker Jeffries talking to you!!!

tothejourney.bsky.social•90 days ago

If a Rep. looses his seat for joining the executive, won‘t there be a substitution from the same party or a new vote in that district ? Is the House just shrinking? I didn‘t know that.

lisamikolajczyk.bsky.social•89 days ago

Think Democrats would offer him Ranking Member of the Intelligence Committee? Who has that job now?

bopstyle.bsky.social•90 days ago

Absolutely Turner should flip his seat .

marjcheck.bsky.social•90 days ago

Stay tuned

chapstickmamba.bsky.social•89 days ago

why would he flip parties??? delusional

akm6.bsky.social•89 days ago

Imagine losing two needed votes to Trump‘s cabinet, and how self-serving and greedy you must be to make that move… it probably doesn’t matter to anyone cause deep down they know they’re not going to accomplish anything, exactly like the last time Trump was in office.

elsiecreek.bsky.social•89 days ago

I can only hope he accomplishes nothing

akm6.bsky.social•89 days ago

I think they’re gonna fight amongst themselves and hopefully never do anything🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽

lyintad.bsky.social•90 days ago

It’s more likely dems continue to cave

notdontrmp.bsky.social•90 days ago

The GOP’s 219-215 edge is crumbling—two members gone to Trump’s circus makes it 217-215. If Mike Turner flips after their Intel snub, it’s 216-216. TOTAL GRIDLOCK. They chose chaos by backing Trump, and now it’s biting them. When you build on quicksand, don’t expect stability!

erradical64.bsky.social•90 days ago

That would be the ultimate plot twist ever for these upcoming 4 years if that’s the case.

flizzer.bsky.social•87 days ago

We beg you, Mike Turner.

bretonlioness3.bsky.social•89 days ago

This is what I want. Deadlock until mid terms.

dmeis22.bsky.social•90 days ago

until the two members are replaced?

indybhoffman.bsky.social•89 days ago

Sadly there is nowhere in that equation for Republicans who chose to vote for America instead of for Donald Trump.

mitchking.bsky.social•89 days ago

It occurs to me that as part of the Gang of 8, he was briefed on just which highly classified intelligence Donald was storing in the bathroom of his event venue, right? Maybe he should take this moment to tell us how concerning what he saw was. But he’ll put party and self-preservation over America.

mitchking.bsky.social•90 days ago

Sadly, he most likely won’t have the spine. I’m willing to be pleasantly surprised and will praise him effusively if he shows some backbone, but you rarely lose money betting that a Republican congressperson who has been downtrodden by MAGA usually says, “Please, Mr. Trump, can I have some more?”

lightsmith.bsky.social•90 days ago

Are we certain that the 2 members going to the administration will not be replaced by GOP party members by the state's gov?

gkettell.bsky.social•90 days ago

In the House vacancies must be filled by a special election, not an appointment.

lightsmith.bsky.social•90 days ago

So there is lag time, but I feel like they'll still go GOP, given how gerrymandered things are.

gkettell.bsky.social•90 days ago

Yeah.

skyla50.bsky.social•89 days ago

Yet their GOP control in 2022 led to them having the worst Congressional record in US history for getting anything accomplished.. What a waste of taxpayer money..

markhax.bsky.social•90 days ago

Go for it Mike! Change parties!

marycateismary.bsky.social•90 days ago

Let’s see if the Dems can get this right bc the Repubs’ loss is our gain!

docugraf.bsky.social•90 days ago

Hasn't JD an extra voice vote as Kamala had?

sherry6767.bsky.social•90 days ago

In the senate not the house

mathealy99.bsky.social•90 days ago

Never happen

herostratus356.bsky.social•90 days ago

If they lose those two members, when will they be replaced and what are the chances they'll be replaced by Republicans?

lonelymule.bsky.social•90 days ago

Hopefully, the felon still wants MTG for a cabinet position. Anything to chip away at the GOP lead.

She can be Secretary of Jewish space lasers and government weather machines. 🤣🤣🤣

dinnerladyarms.bsky.social•90 days ago

I don’t think they care about any of that anymore. It’s going to be a free fall to the bottom, decorum be damned

mightymo2008.bsky.social•89 days ago

It seems as though the Maga Republicans don’t want to work together. It’s disgusting that one person DT is causing hate & division in Congress as well as across the country. This is not who we were.The next 4 years will tell if America survives this administration.

2bme.bsky.social•89 days ago

That would be the best news for veterans, SS/Medicare, etc.

ppqqmm.bsky.social•90 days ago

He won't flip. They have no conscience or spine.
I wonder what Ohio thinks? Sadly, after reading X, doesn't look good!

upholddemocracy.bsky.social•90 days ago

We can only hope it plays out that way

itsallgreektome.bsky.social•90 days ago

Dems should be chatting up Mike Turner giving him free lunches or whatever it takes to flip him. Please!

redbudpond.bsky.social•90 days ago

And Jim Justice from WV can't make it to his seat to vote.

weezieweaver.bsky.social•90 days ago

There’s 435 seats, tho.

Who’s missing from your count?

wbryanh.bsky.social•90 days ago

I was wondering that too.
This shows Gaetz's vacancy, but that still leaves two seats unaccounted for: https://pressgallery.house.gov/member-data/party-breakdown

wbryanh.bsky.social•90 days ago

"...The House assumed a 220–215 majority...Following Gaetz's resignation & Trump's selection of Stefanik and Waltz of Florida...the House would hold a majority of 217–215..."

wbryanh.bsky.social•90 days ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/119th_United_States_Congress

cantard.bsky.social•89 days ago

-Did he vote against impeachment in 2021?
-Did he endorse Trump in 2024?

If yes in both cases, what makes you think he'll flip just because of this slight?

northsleuth.bsky.social•89 days ago

Johnson has been mumbling "One Beautiful Bill" for over a week now. He is a week little Beta Boy.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4896433-mike-johnson-december-omnibus/

jeannebobeanieisat.bsky.social•89 days ago

No Republican currently holding office can be trusted to do the right thing. They’re just incapable

fhuddlestun.bsky.social•90 days ago

I expect him to do like the other Rs who were cast aside, crawl back begging to be taken in. See- Jeff Sessions.

juliaharvey.bsky.social•90 days ago

Here’s hoping.

sunshine3031.bsky.social•90 days ago

We need people working across the isle on both sides to make govt work for the average person.

msstma.bsky.social•89 days ago

I wish. He probably won't. I think they're scared of what he knows about them. I wish he would reveal what he does.

wpinner.bsky.social•90 days ago

He won't though. They never do.

valerair.bsky.social•90 days ago

Fetterman GOP want to make theirs

valerair.bsky.social•90 days ago

Still risking the Intel chairman to a Putinist is a terrible move.

Mike Turner was against Tulsi — and #Tulsi is the precondition for Moscow to communicate with Trump at all.

realguyfawkes.bsky.social•90 days ago

The 2025 Nazi goons will threaten those republicans that don’t do as they’re told.

kkent58.bsky.social•89 days ago

I like your optimism , but we all know that members of Democratic Party will vote along with the Republicans in the spirit bipartisanship.
They never learn.
They think if they lead by example that the GOP will change somehow.
That’s why they are losing voters.

chozn1.bsky.social•89 days ago

Mike Turner is maga, he just wasn't maga enough. He'll never do anything that will cause him to not get back in their good graces. He will lick his wounds and wait until he able to prove his loyalty again.

randmm23.bsky.social•90 days ago

and opportunists always find opportunities

phebe276.bsky.social•90 days ago

Just remember who’s calling the shots.
The kremlin wants to use our government to enrich themselves regardless of anything!
Trump is just a mouth piece for the kremlin.
Trump is own by the mob.

☎️Trump must be
STOP FROM EVER ENTERING THE WH!!

Our existence depends on it

🇺🇸🗽

katemickg.bsky.social•89 days ago

a tiny whisper of hope emerges

jenna7.tgirl.gay•90 days ago

you say this as if no House Democrats voted for the "remove trans people from public, phase I" law

knickfan.bsky.social•89 days ago

Flip him!!

brewedflames.bsky.social•89 days ago

I truly hope at least some will defect so they are the most inefficient Congress possible. Until the midterms to elect competent people to replace and have a democratic majority

tigerfan519.bsky.social•90 days ago

Imagine how a slick hick from Bugtusle Oklahoma (Carl Albert) managed the House for years, but a huckster wannabe from Shreveport in tow w/ Mein Kampf II may just have lost the HOUSE in record time!