Instead of focusing on what they can do to fight for their democracy, the liberals are still screaming about the elections. Channeling that energy to challenge authoritarianism would be more productive use of oxygen.
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Honestly, I don't even need them to admit they were wrong, they just need to stop blaming the people they know were right and maybe start taking some action against fascists instead.
The most productive use of that energy would be to move past that election and ignore Trump also, at least for a while. Then think deeply, come up with policies that working people will vote for. Also learn to stop insulting them. Then learn to make the case for those policies.
No one said anything about breaking the Democrats, they want to do better. I want them to grow a spine and do more, instead of the bs coming from Schumer for two weeks.
Yes I thought so too. But then I tried to have dialogue and was met with the most vile, infantile stream of name-calling and derision. So it’s clear the real intent.
I have not seen this - most people seem concerned about USAID and the Treasury takeover. Perhaps it is you who are behind the times using old stuff to be critical rather than help
Perhaps you shouldn't project your experience onto me? Your logic is 'if i didn't see it, it can't be true'. You are the 5th white USian to say this today and it shows complete lack of understanding of how non-white people are being harassed. Check my timeline before condescending & lecturing.
I think it is you who are projecting because I simply brought up the news cycle. I find the use of race in this exchange also a stretch. You know nothing about me, my relationships or my allegiances
Wow, a person of color says they’re being harassed by white people repeatedly and others are too, white lady says “I find the use of race in this exchange a stretch”. Ok Karen
But you said several people commented in the same way - maybe you were just wrong? Is that ever possible in your mind? Here is the tragedy of the world: we refuse to reach out to each other even when we could
Just tell us how. The reds control the house, Senate, white house, army, Supreme Court, twitter, fox news. Tell me how to fight this, short of violence, because I really sincerely want to know. The three special elections & maybe 5 conscientious judges are the only hope I see
Indivisible has shared many strategies. I’ve posted others from other people. Go looking and you’ll find many strategies and tools people are sharing to fight fascism
As far as I can see, very little. But it’s in nobody’s interest, literally no one, to not work together right now. Quite the opposite. Division enables fascism.
No one’s doing division but asking more from idiots like Schumer et al. Y’all can’t take any critique of your demigods it seems. I think it was Ben Franklin who said something like the truest patriot is one who demands better of their leaders.
I don’t know who you’re referring to. I don’t know any Dems who don’t demand more. I’ve called my senators, I trash them, I recognize they’re human and I don’t always agree with them.
But there ya go, dividing. Please… we need to work together. 🙏
you don’t know who or what I’m referring to but then accuse me of dividing, when all I’ve been doing for months is raising alarm bells of Project 2025 and uniting people, yet have been attacked by white people bc I’m a Muslim woman, then get condescending mansplaining from eejits on here, so go away
We all have a clear and present danger to our country right now. All focus should be on that. Leftists would do well to acknowledge that everyone is feeling pretty radical right now and not continue to drone on about precisely how far left someone may be.
We all have a clear and present danger to our country right now. All focus should be on that.
Centrist neoliberals would do well to actually hold substantial beliefs beyond "anyone who doesn't suck off the DNC is actually as bad as literal Nazis" like you expressed
Instead of focusing on what they can do to fight for their democracy, the progressives are still screaming about "liberals". Channeling that energy to challenge authoritarianism would be more productive use of oxygen.
You do realize there was nothing productive in your post, right?
And clearly you have no idea who I am or what I’ve been doing. I have witnessed and been subjected to vile harassment on this place with blue maga attacking people.
I didn't instigate anything, so GTOH. i posted about my experience of witnessing many posts by celebrities, influencers, liberals going on and on about blaming everyone, and many people being harassed. Then the same lot came to harass me. Me stating the facts is not me playing victim.
Since a bunch of weirdos have been harassing me as some form of self-therapy, bc dumping on a woman of color who didn’t vote for trump makes the feel better about themselves, here’s one way to channel their energy instead https://bsky.app/profile/farhanasultana.com/post/3lhc4lfmiqc2t
Maybe a lot of votes weren’t counted and I think that Elon changed votes. He controls the satellite system. He said he can hack anything in June, then Trump said from July - September I don’t need your votes!
Man, all the condescending lecturing and racist, Islamophobic shite i'm being subject to as someone who didn't vote for Trump, is literally making my point for me. FFS people need to go touch some grass.
I’m sorry. This is common from folks on here. Getting defensive when critiqued, and accuse us of not doing anything but being online. Too many BIPOC communities doing justice work, for generations, that is quickly dismissed in defense of a morally corrupt two party system.
I have seen a lot of yt folks across social media sites panicking about who is going to save “us” and who will lead etc etc. most have not felt the oppression of US gov n never had to fight to defend their human rights.
It’s an unfair jab at American Muslims and Arabs. They were angry and had to make a choice to try to help Palestinians. Those White voters suck. Time for solidarity in the here and now to struggle to restore democracy, dignity, equity, justice, freedom, empathy, science, etc.
Channeling energy used to criticize Biden on Gaza to instead rally support for him and prevent the opportunity for authoritarianism to take hold would have been a more productive use of your oxygen, no?
Tearing Dems down on Gaza and then calling me MAGA for pointing out how your lack of nuanced messaging on the topic hurt Dems shows me that your messaging will continue to hurt Dems. Both sides-ism and all that.
Check the next post in my thread and her harassing me. Also, ever heard of blue maga? Don’t lecture a brown woman professor who teaches nuance about nuance.
As a professor, then you know as well as I do that you have no authority to tell me to not be critical of some of your actions. If you’re going to put yourself in the public sphere and act like an expert to 26k followers, you certainly are going to get feedback. But I know you know that already.
They handed the nuke codes to musk and Trump, musk is now dealing the entire government system, they both already own media platforms! Wake up ! All of starlink is owned by musk too!
Indeed. The fact that many voted for Harris despite their objection to many of her policies is lost on those harassing people like me. Go pick on the white people who caused this.
It’s paid propaganda by the dem party. They have two years to get everyone back to voting for the lesser evil and not realizing they are still voting for evil.
Because I am liberal. The word comes from Latin and means supporting freedom. In a more modern sense it means supporting progress in economic and social areas accomplished by the government.
It should not be a pejorative term, and that is my point.
Liberalism easily devolves to authoritarianism & fascism since there are undercurrents of that built it, esp when ruling class is threatened (as witnessed now). Hence the well-known phrase “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”.
No one’s changing any meaning, theory is not reality, which shows how quickly those who shouted they were liberals a while back (e.g. Musk, Bezos, etc) showed themselves to be be fascists. Evidence-based facts don’t care about definitions. And the saying comes more from Black Panthers than Leninists
It’s almost like they’re giving trolls from the other place a space on purpose to get their follows up. I’ve been having to block/mute a lot of Dem influencers lately for this issue.
In my country we have proportional representation. We have loads of political parties & independent candidates to choose from. I find it weird that it’s so restrictive in U.S.
It seems it’s only socially acceptable to vote for one of *two* people in presidential elections there.
I really dislike generalizations. “The “liberals”? Everyone who voted for Harris is still screaming about the elections? I see all kinds of things going on as they try to figure out how to stop this mess. Maybe stop dissing fellow liberals? Just jump on into your chosen actions.
Yet, when we ask any questions, we are automatically attacked and called pro genocide. Again, I'll ask, why do you continue to pretend that Hamas & Palestine vs. Israel started under Biden? Every congress since 48 has supported Israel. Pretending this is new is bad faith at is deepest.
I’ve not see a single leftist pretend “this” is new. What I *have* seen is liberals show how little they care for the oppressed. If your idea of “making a difference” is ceding ground to fascists, “lesser of two evils”-ing year after year to maintain your own comfort, you may want to re-evaluate.
I'm on several Dem forums although I'm a Registered Independent, and I see very little screaming about the election. And plenty are challenging authority. What have you done so far to challenge authority?
I’m talking about blue sky, weirdo, but of course in your world if you didn’t see it, it didn’t happen, right? And I’m doing plenty just check my timeline and gtfoh
Biden issue more executive orders than any President, and ignored the SCOTUS more than once trying to illegally fund college loan forgiveness. Can you show me any posts about your concerns with authoritarianism? What about when Obama took over the auto and banking industries as if he were Mussolini?
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It is ridiculous to watch.
Still waiting for them to simply acknowledge that maybe demonstrating an unshakeable commitment to Genocide is not a winning strategy.
And that the candidate earns the support of voters.
Not the other way around.
Trump is not the D’s problem. Bad policies, poor communication, bad habit of always resorting to demonization are D’s problems.
Block and do not engage those fools.
They haven’t learned anything from their failure, they will never learn, our future cannot depend on them.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CVgNJf6CsBA&feature=youtu.be
7 words later:
“Y’all can’t take any critique”
But there ya go, dividing. Please… we need to work together. 🙏
liberals aren't the left
liberals are centre-right at best
idk why you think you get to be obstinate and then moralize when someone calls you out
Centrist neoliberals would do well to actually hold substantial beliefs beyond "anyone who doesn't suck off the DNC is actually as bad as literal Nazis" like you expressed
You do realize there was nothing productive in your post, right?
You're actively instigating conflict and then playing the victim when people respond.
https://5calls.org/issue/elon-musk-opm-gsa-takeover/
Do you understand that using "liberal" as a pejorative term is insulting to many who are trying their best to do good?
Can you see how that is, in itself, divisive and counter productive?
It should not be a pejorative term, and that is my point.
You can use words as you wish, but accepted meanings do not change on command.
By the way, that is not a well-known phrase outside of those who use "liberal" to mean anyone to the right of Lenin, who was a tyrant.
It seems it’s only socially acceptable to vote for one of *two* people in presidential elections there.