Arab and Muslim voters in Michigan, a reliably Democratic voting bloc, backed a Republican for president for the first time in 2024. Now, some are expressing concern about President Trump's rhetoric.
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I no longer get people. I don’t get why Arabs and Muslims would vote for trump after the way he treated them. But then again, I don’t know how anyone would vote for a proven sexual assaulted/rapist, tax cheat, coup planner, classified document stealer, etc. Now we know Russia controls him.
So surprised they thought that one of the most unethical, immoral, racist, lying dirt bags was going to put them first. Shocker. The narcissist puts himself first.
Ah, you're one of those Blue Magas.
BTW, armed resistance to an illegal occupation is justified under international law, to which "self defence" is not applicable. The terrorists include the IDF. You'd fight back if I came to your home and took it over no? or would you make a deal to share you home?
Blue Maga?
No such thing.
Also insulting.
Not a great debate tactic...
And isn't it the IDF the Israeli DEFENSE Force?
Palestinian "Martyrs" are PAID to die - (money given to the families);
Kinda Sick?
Even Muslims consider suicide a sin.
Strange to have a Jew NOT defend Israel.
My jewish faith is precisely what drives me to defend, standup and protect the Palestinians. Zionism is a curse and a calamity for us Jews. It is not at all what the Torah and HaShem teaches us. We will be cursed if we continue this way. The IDF is an occupation force. The Palestinian is my brother.
Never would have saw that coming that trump was a grifter. Rep what you sow. You voted and support trump you better get on board this is what you chose
No, the U.S. governing body supplying weapons to find a genocide is pretty evil all around. Trump can be more evil and it can still be the fault of the Democrats for choosing to back Israel.
I don’t think it counts as genocide when the world collectively decides that your land actually belongs to another group of people and tells you to fuck off and die. Say Hamas is bad if you want, that just doesn’t seem to fit the definition of genocide.
Also that’s a really stupid point. The Jews didn’t decide to genocide the Germans after WW2. Also certain Jews did decide that genocide Palestinians was okay. Which frankly I don’t think is helping your centrist position.
They sided with Republicans because they bonded over homophobia and intolerance.That intolerance is a hallmark of Trump policy shouldn’t be a surprise.They were so desperate to prevent their kids from seeing rainbow flags they sold out Palestine. Can’t say they didn’t know who they were voting for.
The part in this article where the mayor of Hamtramck said Democratic opposition (he calls it an attack??) to their town's pride flag ban pushed them towards Republicans is....god that's depressing.
Don’t they remember the last time Trump was elected? Sadly, it seems most of Americans have a very short memory. Now that he is normalized madness it’s worse than ever.
No wonder. Trump has, with the media, paraded his bullshit before everyone in this country forever. Impeached twice, convicted felon and general pervert! What could go wrong with that?? The people who voted for the scumbag are my enemies. I don't feel sorry for them. They're IDIOTS
Remember when Dem leadership said the anti-genocide vote was small, fringe, basically not worth paying attention to? Not even worth giving time to at the convention?
If you could turn back time, what would you advise Dem leadership to do differently?
I understand them actually. Its hard to vote for the group that was actively punching you in the face in real time, but warning you the other guy was going to punch you harder.
I have ZERO sympathy for them. They were warned what would happen but they put punishing the Dems as a priority over doing what's best for the Palestinian people. If Trump pushes forward with the ethnic cleansing, the fault lies squarely on their heads.
Palestinian American here who's still furious with Biden but knew better than to vote for the absolute worst of the worst.
I expected better from my people in MI. Can't believe anyone is surprised by what's happening.
Continuing to do postmortems in order to shame individual voters months after the election is pretty pathetic. We should be thinking about the factors that lead these people to feel so betrayed.
So from the article, it seems their dilemma is: raising their children in an environment where they might be forced to respect gay people vs supporting the ethnic cleansing of Gaza....
Yeah they can go ahead and cry. They put us all into this situation. Every single ounce of damage done to the Muslim community in Michigan is on their hands and their hands alone. They sacrificed every vulnerable group in this nation so they could throw a fit.
This is an extreme misrepresentation of those voters viewpoints. DISGRACEFUL NPR. Do not vote shame ppl who’s family, culture and dignity was and is genocided by the democrats. 🖕🏼
Well to be fair to me I think republicans are way worse and don’t think this constituency voted for Trump as much as they did not vote for democrats. So the question is, why didn’t the democrats deliver much and failed to message on what they did deliver? Half ass healthcare and a half ass…
Infrastructure come to mind. Also, a payout to banks instead of homeowners. PPP loans that were points of fraud and theft by corporations and legislators with small businesses. NAFTA. Drone killings. Doubling down on drilling. Chiding the left constantly and subverting democracy with PACs and big $
The word corporatism comes to mind. Essentially Mussolini’s definition of his Italian fascism. The corporations running the state. This is just through dems and republicans. Only politicians I trust a little rn are ones that only take small donor money.
Their vote against Harris was absolutely understandable at the time; However, the backing Trump was shortsighted considering downstream global impacts. This shortsightedness and failure to understand implications of actions unless they affect you directly is the most obnoxious of American values.
Did those people not spend 4 seconds looking at Trump’s previous position and comments on the matter?? Holy shit. Beyond the scope of the depravity, how is this a surprise??
Unsympathetic. If you were dumb enough to vote (or not vote at all) against your own self interests to the detriment of all Americans, then you absolutely deserve whatever fate befalls you. You reap what you sow. Kindly F* off.
Biden and Harris were being pressured to care for the Palestinians, to see them as human beings - but the protesters were called antisemitic
Any little sympathy that Biden & Harris to Palestinians gave was then destroyed with more & y weapons & aid going to Israel.
CONCERN? They are expressing CONCERN? Jesus God they put this monster in the White House and we have to live in this hellscape. There will NEVER be any 2 state solution. You know THE GAZA RIVIERA-i thought he would just make a big golf course. DO NOT CALL THE DEMS and LET ME KNOW HOW YOU LIKE IT
What the hell did they expect? Didn't Trump try to enact anti Muslim laws in his first term? You'd think they'd have learned They committed nothing short of electoral suicide.It's hard to be sympathetic
Really? Just now?
What wasn't frightening about his rhetoric on the campaign trail?
Look at every aspect of his life.
He lies. He cheats. He's a convicted rapist.
All that says he is "unfit" to serve the U.S. in any capacity.
So they believed the habitual liar, conman, grifter, and fraud because... Dems got upset that the city council banned flags (incl. Pride)?
Well, if you're going to choose a hill to die on, I guess die in style. You can still proclaim how anti-LGBT you are with your your family values at least
And yes, certainly because of the genocide in Gaza, which is a different element. Still one that I don't see getting better by putting an anti-MENA real estate developer known for corruption into office.
"Nemer supports a two-state solution for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and she believes Trump could make his mark by pushing the United States to recognize a Palestinian state."
Anyone still believing this is a remote possibility after his actions is a dope and probably should never vote again.
The final solution is likely to move the Gazans out of Gaza into the larger Muslim countries. Jordan/Egypt have been hesitant as they have had their countries destabilized in the past by these people and Iran only want them there as a method to kill the remaining Jews.
nNt a genocide, but the solution under Trump will be an ethnic cleansing, which would never have happened under Harris. It will end 80 years of war in that tiny spec of land. In the end, there is plenty of land for them. No different than the Jews that were forced out of all the yellow countries.
Biden & Blinken were saying Palestinians were to move out of Gaza since it isn't a viable place after all the bombing. Arab counties are not going to go for it. They realize that Israel is a rogue nation that fails to recognize international laws and sovereignty & borders of neighbouring countries.
Israel has been under attack continuously by Iran through their proxies such as Hamas. They are the real enemies here. The far-right of Israel are no angels, but they would not be in charge if not for the endless violence.
They did not start these wars, but they have made peace with most of the largest countries. With the ending of the awful regime in Iran (see what they do to women), this will all end.
fun fact ... it was created as satire by Palestinians to poke fun at both Israel and Hamas. I was wondering at first why Trump was in a woke video that ended with him at a gay resort.
Funny that our president reposts things that are meant to be satire of him and his dumb ideas and doesn’t even know that he is being made fun of. But he is a genius!
Ffs, pull your head out of your ass and quit saying this. Freaking ridiculous, critical thinking skills of a turnip if you think this. You just enjoy the drama and the people’s trauma. There will be no two state anymore, they will have no homes and the whole thing is a cluster fuck. 1/2
Seriously. Obviously there was no excuse for the way things went under Biden, but it should have taken people less energy than a blink to use their brains and realize trump was the worse option.
No. I believe genocide is a bad thing and the US & Western governments shouldn't be funding & supporting it. I was pushing for Dems to recognize that their blind support for Israel was harmful to electoral wins. The Dem leadership failed the electorate.
It’s like arguing with a rock, with the critical reasoning of a rock. You fixate on him, Biden, and every president before him, continuing to try to force a truce while trying to side Gaza but not succeeding because he tried to be rational and moral, they, Israel, weren’t.
Trump failed as POTUS last time, true? F. He left the USA in the toilet. Covid ran wild. Inject bleach? Red ink ocean. Jobs down. Broken supply lines. Allie shunned. Enemies emboldened. Race riots. A sorry bust. Historians rated him LAST. Not just Michigan Muslims, but why did ANYONE want him again?
Humanity is doomed. If a minority group votes for a person who demeaned that same minority group in their first term, why the F are you voting for them? Social Darwinism in full effect.
Muslims voted for the author of the Muslim
ban, Netanyahu Zionism, ethnic cleansing of Gaza and the West Bank, and an end to birthright citizenship because Harris is a woman they couldn’t trust.
The result of not having a really democracy. Two elite groups representing the wealthiest, greediest, evil fucks on the planet. You suckers support a system of misogyny, racism, hate, and exploitation. You think electing the representatives of these POS will make you safe and reward your work
I don’t know how anyone who has paid any attention to politics of the last several decades could genuinely believe that any Republican would be better for the Palestinians than any Democrat.
Biden absolutely mishandled the Palestinian genocide. Anyone who thought Trump would be better is a moron.
seriously, if they hadn't let their hatred of Jews override their concerns for absolutely everything else, we wouldn't be in this mess. No sympathies here. None.
often those on the same side, insisting on the ability to discriminate against LGBTQ+ people, assume they will be rewarded. One of the problems with fundamentalists of any religion in my opinion.
What I took from this is they played themselves and condemned America... Because they hate gays. Once again they knew what they were voting for, they just thought he'd ruin other people's lives instead of theirs. Hearing this story a lot lately.
""He didn't say anything like that before," Duhaini said. "When he came to Dearborn, to the community, he said that he would strive for peace and justice for the whole region.""
"We're mad about Gaza, so let's vote for the guy who has a proven record of hating all Muslims and supporting genocide by Israel." - Absolute morons who are responsible for everything that happens next
Yeah, well, they should have thought about that when they went to vote! They chose to buy the lies that were fed to them, so now they'll suffer, along with the rest of us, for the way they voted.
How did so many voters not listen to the words coming out of his mouth for the past 4 years? I can't stand the orange menace but he was extremely clear on what he intended to do.
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The Arab world has been using Palestine/Gaza as a weapon against Israel for decades;
tRumps peace plan would move MILLIONS of refugees into other Arab states for decades while the US "renovates" Gaza into another FAILED tRump resort.
Did we learn NOTHING from IRAQ?
But any supporters of terrorists like Hamas or Hezbollah should have known better.
They've been human shields for decades.
Israel has the right to defend itself from these attacks.
This country (Israel) has been under siege since its creation.
But the ARABS don't want peace.
BTW, armed resistance to an illegal occupation is justified under international law, to which "self defence" is not applicable. The terrorists include the IDF. You'd fight back if I came to your home and took it over no? or would you make a deal to share you home?
No such thing.
Also insulting.
Not a great debate tactic...
And isn't it the IDF the Israeli DEFENSE Force?
Palestinian "Martyrs" are PAID to die - (money given to the families);
Kinda Sick?
Even Muslims consider suicide a sin.
Strange to have a Jew NOT defend Israel.
He was the only evil
The lengths people will go for their emotional support bigotries.
😭😭😭
If you could turn back time, what would you advise Dem leadership to do differently?
Go fuck yourself. This is your shit now....
https://x.com/YourAnonCentral/status/1896778577863135675
I expected better from my people in MI. Can't believe anyone is surprised by what's happening.
This man was never going to be your friend -He used you and now he is going to abuse you
What methodology are you using that condemns the Democrats, but shows positive effect of the GOP?
Support term limits, ranked choice voting and primary every single incumbent
They are falling prey to their own bigotry, but probably wont learn their lesson, like most.
But no, I’ll vote for the inhumane and stupid and scream “I was lied to”.
Screw you for screwing the country and the world.
Any little sympathy that Biden & Harris to Palestinians gave was then destroyed with more & y weapons & aid going to Israel.
What wasn't frightening about his rhetoric on the campaign trail?
Look at every aspect of his life.
He lies. He cheats. He's a convicted rapist.
All that says he is "unfit" to serve the U.S. in any capacity.
Don't let them use Gaza as an excuse
Well, if you're going to choose a hill to die on, I guess die in style. You can still proclaim how anti-LGBT you are with your your family values at least
Anyone still believing this is a remote possibility after his actions is a dope and probably should never vote again.
Trump's promises are meant to be broken. Its an unwritten rule, like night follows the day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2UMvRMdTaI
Israel has been under attack continuously by Iran through their proxies such as Hamas. They are the real enemies here. The far-right of Israel are no angels, but they would not be in charge if not for the endless violence.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Arab-Israeli-wars
They did not start these wars, but they have made peace with most of the largest countries. With the ending of the awful regime in Iran (see what they do to women), this will all end.
Did he withhold aid when Israeli snipers killed children? Journalists? Medics?
Did he recognize Palestine like ~150 other nations do?
Did he call Israeli war criminals - friends?
ban, Netanyahu Zionism, ethnic cleansing of Gaza and the West Bank, and an end to birthright citizenship because Harris is a woman they couldn’t trust.
Biden absolutely mishandled the Palestinian genocide. Anyone who thought Trump would be better is a moron.
WTH, are they taking lessons from Collins now?
اكتشاف ذلك.
Say what now?
I wonder if Carter Burke, just before his death, thought to himself "But I didn't KNOW that they would kill ME!"
I have zero sympathy for deliberate ignorance
They will get zero sympathy from me.
Smart.
HE SAID HE'D DO ALL OF THIS. ALL OF IT. HE OPENLY WANTED GAZA TO BE A RESORT AREA THAT HE DEVELOPED. FUCK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU.