it is so insane to me that these people see 0 issues with what theyre saying
"Yeah, Im progressive. I just think that some trans people have a body type that makes them a DEGENERATE ABOMINATION AGAINST NATURE. But im soo progressive guys i love trans people! They just have to conform!!!"
yes, Andre. yes, you would.
and just so you're aware *Andre*, you're using the same language that's used against trans people who fit into the binary boxes you deem people who don't fit in them "abominations".
so get the fuck off Twitter, and read a fucking book for once.
to clarify, none of this is attacking Salem, this is only meant for the idiot shown in the first pic
and i stg if the reposter of that trash opinion deadnamed him, im gonna have to talk to them 🔫
this just in: some trans guys still have their breasts in a world where most folk don't have the money for cosmetic surgery, since it's still considered as such despite being life-saving for many folk, so they start trying to embrace their body type through art and... it's a problem somehow?
tbh, even in a world where cosmetic/body-altering surgery was free, some trans guys would probably still choose to keep their breasts. some guys just like having boob.
You're very right and I didn't mean to make it seem like that isn't also completely valid, I was just running low on characters and didn't wanna spam Salem with comments again. Boob is great.
That's the wonderful thing about gender and our bodies - we each get to decide how we express ours and which is best for us and our own personal lives and experiences. Every gender experience is valid.
Ah yes, abominations like *puts on glasses and reads paper* people with different body types who are coded to be black.
Seriously though, they don't have empathy for anyone.
Nature is full of abominations, perhaps nothing but those. It's not bad or evil to look like yourself. Nature has more than enough room for the margins and the outliers. Looking a little different and surviving regardless is exactly what nature is all about.
Your work this past year or so has been incredibly incredibly inspiring and is such a wonderful exploration and celebration of what bodies are and who they reflect.
Ewww, literally the most lightly veiled Nazi shit ever. It reads exactly like what republicans used to say 5 years ago. “I’m totally not a bigot, I just have these totally not bigoted issues with seeing minorities.”
this is exhausting to look at, i still can't believe you put up with this
like, it doesn't need to be said anymore, but all their for-show "progressiveness" goes out the window once they remember how many trans men and women don't "pass" and how many nonbinary people don't look androgynous
fr they might as well just throw in the towel and say who they actually are cus this is gonna set us back decades if it remains unchecked. ts is exactly why one of my trans woman friends isn't confident enough to show their face online rn
I seldom use this term unless absolutely necessary because of how it can invite derision amongst the Legébeautuquois but I've come to learn with experience as an older member to separate lived real world experiences worth discussing and making space for from what I'd describe as "tenderqueer" takes.
To give the full benefit of the doubt, I'm willing to file some of these takes as coming from younger queers with less experience and reading into our current climate and history. However I can't engage in these arguments in a level-headed manner and I can choose to walk away for my personal sanity.
We saw this with "kink at pride" discussions. We also know there are hired spies by the intelligence of foreign countries to incite derision in public western consciousness. One example was with Russian spies trying to "cancel" the Ukrainian army, or using pink-washing against Palestinians.
I can't say there's much one can do to stop bad faith arguments attempting to weaponize your queerness against you from coming your way, but you can find solace in building confidence in how your lived experience is legitimate and steeling yourself enough to block and move on more easily.
For what it's worth, Salem, I've met several trans men in my life who celebrated themselves similarly to the way you do, but none of the ones I knew personally were Black. You're a trailbraizer in your own right, and for every mean comment you find, there's ten Black queers you're inspiring.
Every square inch and pound of you is just as beautiful, handsome or divine in all the ways you want them to be. You are far stronger and more powerful than you might fully realize. Even if you do not know them, one small part of yourself is inspiring a younger Black transmasc person somewhere.
I literally show your art to a friend of mine ( transmasc POC ) and he was SO GLAD to saw an artist like you drawing trans body he could identify with.
The only *kind of* rationale I see is that they themselves have that kind of body and are doing it as an "I'm not like the OTHER fatties🤮🤮" bit. I can completely picture myself from two years ago, mid-spiral, "sarcastically" piling on the bodyshaming.
So glad I stepped away from Twitter and never started posting my art there in the first place. It's so toxic. There is nothing wrong with bodies being different. Honestly, it's fantastic. The fact that bodies vary so much from person to person is AWESOME and BEAUTIFUL. ❤️
they are like vultures; they look for any big artist/account and hold them to the highest possible moral standard. they are actively looking to cause a problem and aching for the opportunity to do so because they want to tear them down or control them. fuck em tbh
Fat trans men exist!
Trans men who don't want to or can't transition exist!
Not every trans person is required to 'pass' based on euro-centric standards.
Let's not kid ourselves, calling someones self expression in art an 'abomination of nature' is insane. I don't know how these people are going to make it far in life.
And how come no one says this about how you draw trans women? 😶🌫️
Are trans men seen as 'wrong' for being different than the norm? (ANYTHING OTHER THAN 100% MASCULINE I GUESS) I don't get these gatekeeping backward ass people.
Nazis being Nazis on the Nazi owned website, hope they keep their racist trash to themselves over there
Better yet they could try eating a curb or two, might not make them any less of a loser but it would at least be funny
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"So Fetishy!!!"
Keep drawing whatever the hell you want Salem and don't give these chuds the time of day; your stuff seriously rocks!!
i saw it and just....people really can't help but use progressive language to be a bully
"Yeah, Im progressive. I just think that some trans people have a body type that makes them a DEGENERATE ABOMINATION AGAINST NATURE. But im soo progressive guys i love trans people! They just have to conform!!!"
okay fascist lol
Simple as that.
and just so you're aware *Andre*, you're using the same language that's used against trans people who fit into the binary boxes you deem people who don't fit in them "abominations".
so get the fuck off Twitter, and read a fucking book for once.
and i stg if the reposter of that trash opinion deadnamed him, im gonna have to talk to them 🔫
WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING TO ME
Nothing here falls under the term abomination.
*as long as everyone conforms to my standards of beauty which happen to include being white
Seriously though, they don't have empathy for anyone.
like, it doesn't need to be said anymore, but all their for-show "progressiveness" goes out the window once they remember how many trans men and women don't "pass" and how many nonbinary people don't look androgynous
Your art is precious.
"ABOMINATIONS OF NATURE"
no one says this with a straight face. in a group of people. and doesnt get just awkwardly and uncomfortably left in the dust at the very least.
so like mood on that probably being the rationale im just kinda yellin at it over here omg
im glad you moved on from that 🤝
Fat trans men exist!
Trans men who don't want to or can't transition exist!
Not every trans person is required to 'pass' based on euro-centric standards.
And how come no one says this about how you draw trans women? 😶🌫️
Better yet they could try eating a curb or two, might not make them any less of a loser but it would at least be funny
And I love it because IRL people look like these body representations!!!
So, aside from Trans rep- you draw great body rep, too!!!!😫💝