this idea that journalists are not allowed to describe objective reality that they see but can only quote what other people believe about things is one of the stupid ideas that has basically destroyed a shared reality - ThreadSky

planetoffinks.bsky.social • 36 days ago

this idea that journalists are not allowed to describe objective reality that they see but can only quote what other people believe about things is one of the stupid ideas that has basically destroyed a shared reality

Reposted from Jackson Exists here now

found one that says he is "accused" of making a nazi salute lmao I hate it here

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minerva1.bsky.social•36 days ago

Anyone who takes this position should shut down their fake media outlet.

They’re doing more harm than good.

mikeproper.bsky.social•36 days ago

Yet somehow they don't do this with Trump. It's "Trump to suspend Constitution and begin dating 90s Jennifer Love Hewitt" not "Trump says crazy, illegal shit again"

awakeneddragon.bsky.social•36 days ago

They are required to pretend they see the world as the felon does, he needs that, and they are willing to counterfeit reality for crumbs dropped by this worthless rotter and his followers.

theuntrainedeye.bsky.social•36 days ago

I never thought I'd say this but, MTG is right. We should have a national divorce. Kick out the rich and take half their money and stuff. Like any true proper divorce from failure of american nuclear family values or whatever
#DivorceTheRich

stan-fresh.bsky.social•36 days ago

What use are they, if they won't state facts.

sthomas451.bsky.social•36 days ago

This is really interesting. It's as if the fourth estate has removed itself to a sort of fourth-person perspective, so afraid to be objective that they're not really reporting on events now, but accidentally reporting perceptions of events.

ashigaruspearman.bsky.social•36 days ago

Name and shame. If they are called out each and every time by the crowds, it might change.

shuchancellor.online•36 days ago

A lot of moral cowardice that destroyed "journalists"

jamesrobichaux.bsky.social•36 days ago

The hyper-reliance on fact-checking - in lieu of addressing the ideological and political reasons for fascist lies - is also a symptom of this problematic way of thinking.

bollarice.bsky.social•36 days ago

And it's a fairly new one. One of my great regrets in leaving journalism in the mid 2000s was knowing that I subtracting a broom from the few trying to hold back the ocean.

intoxicus.bsky.social•36 days ago

He definitely did.

glenqgold.bsky.social•36 days ago

The Guardian names it.

annmariepisano.bsky.social•36 days ago

and Haaretz. Will be interesting to see if anyone in the US joins.

antitractionist.bsky.social•36 days ago

Haaretz has, all things considered, been a surprisingly decent publication on American politics

appiah.bsky.social•36 days ago

This is one of the (numerous) why I never became a journalist. They are, in almost all circumstances, stenographers for those in power.

stevi5.bsky.social•36 days ago

“The emperor is wearing a new outfit that some accuse of being ‘indecent’”

beanponderer.bsky.social•36 days ago

All major media outlets have relocated to a reality bubble beyond the edge of the universe and interpret events on earth via minute changes in gravity waves. None of them can be sure about much.

leftinfighter.bsky.social•36 days ago

NYT: Some say Mr. Trump's Executive Orders are enacting harm upon the trans community, but others say it is not so simple. To Mr. Rufo, the president's actions are no more than a leader "purging this Godly kingdom of mutant undesirables."

jaymesrs.bsky.social•36 days ago

The Wikipedia theory of “Ideal” Journalism; just like Brad Pitt can’t edit Wikipedia to update his birthday if it’s objectively wrong, it has to be filtered through some other source.

fuzzymike.bsky.social•36 days ago

and what gets me is it's the rock on which they built the "fact checking" industry! every fact check article is like "to see if this was true, we asked some guy at the brookings institute"

porkrocket.bsky.social•36 days ago

“We reached out to BasedHitler88 on Twitter, and they described it as a heartfelt gesture to the crowd”

truth-sandwich.com•36 days ago

Neutrality over objectivity.

largesseadultson.bsky.social•36 days ago

“Journalism as reporting people’s statements and opinions” gives me such “unscripted TV” vibes. “What could we get if we put in, say, the least possible effort?”

gethaunted.bsky.social•36 days ago

Some are saying this is an accurate assessment

drsaddison.bsky.social•35 days ago

I mean, when the media is made up of 1) freelancers, 2) scrappy outlets run by like 5 people, 3) legacy media owned by conservatives, and 4) rabid RW outlets, and they're up against people who can make billions of dollars appear out of thin air overnight, they do have kind of a point....

catladybel.bsky.social•36 days ago

The word “allegedly” has no meaning anymore.

getastandingdesk.bsky.social•36 days ago

This is sort of the core problem with modern journos - they're so concerned about bias allegations that they refuse to trust their own eyes and ears as a source.

maxtundra.com•36 days ago

Spot on.

thorbenson.bsky.social•36 days ago

There have been many times an editor has left a note on something I wrote like, "According to who?" and I always want to say "According to me, an expert"

bluedotteacher.bsky.social•36 days ago

100%

sorrykb.bsky.social•36 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/paleofuture.bsky.social/post/3lg7f4lhow222

lex.vaughn.theneedling.com•36 days ago

They're afraid of getting sued so they gotta phrase it that way to cover their ass.

grigorylukin.bsky.social•36 days ago

Hunter S. Thompson is rolling in his grave, I bet.

teriac.bsky.social•36 days ago

I read this as “rotting” & thought ‘well, yeah’ 🫤

grigorylukin.bsky.social•36 days ago

disparition.bsky.social•36 days ago

some irish right wing rag just said he "appeared to accidentally" give the salute even he clearly did it twice and you can see from his face how on purpose it was

planetoffinks.bsky.social•36 days ago

You can see him working himself up to do it

ke-re-di.bsky.social•36 days ago

I mean Trump just settled with ABC for 15mil for alleged "defamation". I get it. Poor guys probably sat around for hours discussing how to report on it. Kinda pathetic, but understandable

roryr6.bsky.social•36 days ago

It's because they are afraid of being killed by the new nazi admin

madnessgrill.bsky.social•36 days ago

What was that saying? If you're a joirnalist, and a person says it's raining and another says it's sunny, it's not your job to report that these two people are saying these things. Your job is to look out of the window.

richlange.bsky.social•36 days ago

We’re on our own, people.

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