Permaculture is indigenous knowledge that's been repackaged by (mostly) white men. This doesn't get talked about enough in the #permaculture world. I've got a video about this + full article coming soon (and no the irony isn't lost on me). - ThreadSky

solarity-acres.bsky.social • 9 days ago

Permaculture is indigenous knowledge that's been repackaged by (mostly) white men.

This doesn't get talked about enough in the #permaculture world. I've got a video about this + full article coming soon (and no the irony isn't lost on me).

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abysmalzydrate.bsky.social•9 days ago

sorry about the other comments

silverbranchpermaculture.org•9 days ago

Respectfully, I think it's an overstatement to say that's all it is. A lot of it is repackaged and that needs to be acknowledged. But a lot of the design system and patterns are very much Permaculture's own unique modern or post-modern creation. And I'd be curious how you'd apply this to ...

terijianbearheart.bsky.social•8 days ago

Just couldn't resist eyy? 😆

silverbranchpermaculture.org•9 days ago

... the patterns repackaged from European cultural lifeways, like hugulkultur or coppice agroforestry.

And there are many natural building or land techniques that have resonance with indigenous (land-based, generational) people, but could only have arisen with a waste stream or fossil fuels...

tim0theos.bsky.social•9 days ago

You mean indigenous European knowledge?

silverbranchpermaculture.org•9 days ago

... but under all this, I think we miss a lot about Permaculture when we ignore the context it arose in: a response to 1970s concerns about ecological collapse. It emphasized a lot of rapid restoration techniques that mostly would be unneeded by indigenous cultures centuries ago. And...

silverbranchpermaculture.org•9 days ago

... it emphasized design techniques that are very much a product of Systems Theory - which again, has resonance with some indigenous teachings, but also seems uniquely emergent from a modern context (the 1970s).

Yes, we need more attribution and respect to indigenous cultures in PC, but ...

silverbranchpermaculture.org•9 days ago

.. I think we lose a lot of the story when we say "Permaculture "is" indigenous knowledge" . Permaculture could not have happened without indigenous knowledge, but that's not the only stream that feeds it.

gidlord.bsky.social•5 days ago

That statement feels a bit like bait. Maybe unintended, but still.

The word "is" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there, and repackaged is pretty disparaging.

For me, #permaculture is a first system of ethics which then guides decisions on design & which tools/knowledge are used.

1greenmantle.bsky.social•9 days ago

Some of it is but that assumes that the indigenous knowledge was the same the world over and it isn’t and wasn't . Mollinson drew and a wide range of sources. Everything is local .

tim0theos.bsky.social•9 days ago

Um, no… Indigenous knowledge is local. And permaculture is all local.

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