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paultassi.bsky.social • 61 days ago

Former ‘Starfield’ Dev Says Bethesda Should Switch To Unreal Engine 5

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2024/12/27/former-starfield-dev-says-bethesda-should-switch-to-unreal-engine-5/

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inzaneman.bsky.social•61 days ago

There is absolutely no chance Bethesda could optimize an unreal game enough to be worth doing over the creation engine they already know

guiltyb0b.bsky.social•61 days ago

Ok, stopped reading when I got to "Purkeypile", that is not a real name

gavowastaken.bsky.social•61 days ago

Unreal Engine is a blight on this industry with how poorly optimized it is on PC, I cannot even fathom what would happen if Bethesda added their classic Bethesda touch to it lol

dfsp1.bsky.social•61 days ago

Unreal is a good engine, but it requires work to get it working properly. I forgot where I read this, but a dev mentioned that you should be able to rewrite or discard parts of the engine to better suit your needs, not just use it "as is", which is where many of the problems with it come from.

dfsp1.bsky.social•61 days ago

My take would be, Bethesda has id Tech right there. Sure, it would still require a lot of work to make it suitable for their RPGs, not unlike moving to Unreal, but I don't believe it would be as substantial as continously rewriting their old ass engine?

van-elvelaryon.bsky.social•61 days ago

Unreal is good, I do get tired of the "switch to unreal" mindset. But for Bethesda, I'm more tired of their engine and will adopt a "switch to anything I'm begging you" mindset.

papatunatv.bsky.social•61 days ago

Unless the loading screens (frequency not speed) are purely unfixable due to the engine, i don't really think it even needs change given starfield looks great and runs well, and modders can continue to do their thing with it. That said, for all MS studios, id Tech is right there... and exceptional.

papatunatv.bsky.social•61 days ago

I also don't have a particular issue with UE5, it has a lot of great shit in it and it looks incredible when done right. But, it has to be done right otherwise you end up with sloppy and stuttery unoptimized games. But then you have a small studio come along with i.e. Lies of P and crush it, so... 😂

suedemaker.bsky.social•61 days ago

Lies of P is a *very* different game which helps immensely (and it's UE4.) Corridors, limited number of enemies in any encounter etc.

Anything open-world-adjacent runs like booty though.

papatunatv.bsky.social•61 days ago

It is different, but it's also got some larger sections to it, and dense maps. Game style helps, but it is not immune to stutter at all, which is UE's biggest issue. It also unfortunately affects both 4 and 5 (was supposed to help), though 5.5 *allegedly* improves it (again) lol

neoak.bsky.social•61 days ago

"Grass looks greener on the other side of the fence while standing on a green field" vibes after how much Creation engine has that UE doesn't.

rebootinteractive.bsky.social•58 days ago

Agree

davefpg.bsky.social•61 days ago

That's not going to fix the issues that Starfield did have. But I'm glad to see Starfield is the gift that keeps on grifting.

suedemaker.bsky.social•61 days ago

Couldn't disagree more. Unreal runs like ass half the time and isn't built to handle the system complexity of Bethesda games (CPU util. is beyond terrible)

Reducing the amount of meaningless clutter would do wonders on its own.

pondershock.bsky.social•61 days ago

They definitely need to figure out something in order to improve basic gameplay. That being said, I don't know what the answer is that would keep the spirit of these games, including "easy" modding. If upgrading the engine didn't do it, maybe it's time to get a new "chassis"

missmira.bsky.social•61 days ago

what Beth needs to figure out is how to make a game using the creation engine. look at a highly modded Skyrim, it's beautiful! the problem isn't the engine, the problem is a lack of polish and lackluster content and story elements from Bethesda

hsienwanderer.bsky.social•60 days ago

Hard agree

sendpies.bsky.social•60 days ago

Those games would still run like ass but at least it would shorten their development time I guess

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