We don’t really have one. There’s zero big talk about him. Trudeau is laying low, and Singh is shut out by the media. All the lefty press is doing what they can. The NDP is just trying to hang on and get some more seats back. Honestly, I think we’re screwed. Harper and co have all the money.
No clue really between people being tired of Trudeau or swallowing Pierre's BS and lies not much unless people understand that half the stuff pierre squeals about is from provincial territory the other half is nonsense and lies. If an election were held we get Dollarama Trump sadly.
We need the parties to shift advertising dollars to use on social media not as paid ads but to pay volunteers who will fight disinformation and share fact in the online space - many voters are falling for BS propaganda from Pierre like that “the left will make you eat bugs instead of meat” - no joke
Government should implement rules that state every leader of a party should have security clearance. PP is the only one that doesn't - what does he have to hide? Seems dodgy, not sure why this isn't the #1 story until he gets it.
Based on the stuff out of some of their mouths, they will probably be confused when Trump’s name isn’t on the ballot, and write it in. Or not vote. Do they actually know he can’t run? Or what “MAGA” supposedly stands for?
We have an election in the fall of 2025. People say they are tired of trudeau. I'm usually an NDP voter, but I'm also strategic (ie anyone but a conservative). Not sure if Trump's winning will be good or bad for the Cons (maple maga) the Bloc in Quebec is also a factor. Fingers crossed.
The NDP is mobilizing now. Want to make a difference? Volunteer. I’m doing weekly voter ID shifts using a voip program. We helped get an NDP MP elected in Manitoba this summer.
Everyone is mad about our cost of living, housing crisis, excessive immigration and JT gets the blame. Unfortunately Temu Trump will win next year but at least he's not a fascist?
Maybe follow the news about Russian/Indian influence and read about Harper and the IDU. PP and the CPC are members of the IDU along with Trump, Orban, Putin and other extreme right wing leaders.
Trudeau needs to do the right thing and hand the reins over to a fresh candidate, or we are screwed. Too many are tired of him and will vote for the cons just to spite him. Disaster awaits.
Well since you asked.
I think @JustinTrudeau and @theJagmeetSingh should form a non compete agreement in key ridings to prevent the vote splitting that helps the #cpc candidate.
I want them to form a coalition agreement and promote a new and hope filled plan for #Canadians #Trudeau is a great PM
I'm not sure rational people would see a problem. We already know that vote splitting works to the advantage of the right.
A cooperation agreement makes those races more fair
@JustinTrudeau should already be aware that we need the centre and left to form a cooperative agreement in order to fend off these attacks from the ring wing world. There will be giant attacks well funded and we need to be prepared
Well, since I have lived over 6 decades I do have some insight into Canadian minds.
My assumption isn't outlandish. People are generally rational in my experience.
And yes, most likely they would want to keep such agreements from the public view, but they all already do it with leaders ridings now.
And I have lived just a hair short of 5 decades. And my opinion is just as valid. And no, they aren’t. Not when they’re being constantly bombarded by propaganda and catastrophes. It’s called the Shock Doctrine. Being a ‘nice person’ is not the same as rational.
Having the two parties working together as they have was very well liked by many of us in the center and to the left of centre.
And we made progress in several areas.
It’s imperative we quit splitting the centre and left of centre vote. The leaders of those parties need to hear this. We the people need to make sure they hear this message.
Agreed I have been contacting a bunch of ndp and liberal MPs to take this seriously and stop competing for center and left votes - it is absolutely insane if they still do that this round — our heads are in the sand re what’s coming.
Like you guys, watch as we elect "minority" conservative government, watch Justin step down as party leader, wait for Mark Carney to ride in on his white horse, bring down the minority government, and return to good times 🤦♂️
I'd prefer Sean Fraser, but, I feel like the "financial" false sense of security Carney will bring, will ultimately prevail...if, as you say, he's interested.
American liberals still have no clue why the Dems lost on Nov. 5. Those same factors are at play in Canada, albeit with a different mix. The 🇨🇦 Liberals are going to have to figure this out and soon, or we’ll be hosting the same wake in Canada around this time next year.
I actually had one of them standing behind me while waiting to check in for a flight recently at Tampa Airport and all he was doing was bitching about the Canadian government and he lives there.
.. iranian activist #MasihAlinejad says it best that dictators always stick together while we argue among ourselves .. they all have the same goal so accept each others methods
Hopefully beating them at the polls so we don't have PP running the show. Unfortunately, I think a) we don't have enough people in Canada who care enough to vote & b) people are stupid so they will vote him in due to people being pissed off about things that are under provincial jurisdiction.
Waiting for the foreign interference report which was due in late December. It has now been delayed until January. This should be very enlightening. Harper (IDU) and Pierre Putin both complicit? Stay tuned.
I honestly don't know what the plan is. Most of the country is disengaged, a huge chunk is ignorant, another huge chunk is awful, and another huge chunk is us.🤦♀️
Ignore them. They're not being brought back from the abyss.
We need average swing voters to pay attention and not get sucked in by the same propaganda the US had about immigrants stealing everything, inflation and BS promises from our Trump Lite candidate, Pierre Poilievere (Pee Pee). Dangerous.
This is from AggregateIQ…
They are the heart of Canadian MAGA…
They are the Canadian Cambridge Analytica…
Any place you see Cambridge (Now fully operational under the name Emerdata the public sways to the right. Dark psychology + Internet = Trump supporters.
there will be damage to canada, thru tariffs and trump wanting to take our water. not to mention migrants crossing the border...the US won't stop them.
The plan is to make the same mistake, for the same reasons. Canada has a populist crisis of its own and has already elected several leaders more than eager to lick Trump's boots just for a chance to roll the dice that he might spare the tariff rod.
So many reasonable people continue to join this faction, becoming angry and activated over various grieves like Covid, the woke, convoys and the same general scaremongering applied by DT in the US.
Cross our fingers and pray. Their puppet has a very real chance of winning the next election while the NDP and Liberals split the moderate and left vote and progressives may just say fuck it and vote Green because it isn't clear which of the other two has the chance to beat the right. We're fucked.
Call or write our ndp and lib MPs. Tell them we are highly concerned. Trudeau does NOT need to call an election fir a while yet. Ndp and liberals need to work together against vote splitting. If they unite in ant way, they win.
Singh is well aware. The NDP is mobilizing in the background, but they just don’t have money. And volunteers are thin on the ground. If you want to make a difference volunteer for the NDP. Or donate.
Turns out lots of folks spent the pandemic jumping down conspiracy holes online. Looks like Poilievre’s gonna get a fat deposit from leon skum who now fancies himself as a kingmaker.
They're going down the same route. They will complain about immigration destroying the county, crime through the roof, everything is too expensive because of Mr Trudeau. We will end up voting in a Trump-lite in Canada. Unfortunate, but its damn near inevitable
It's not Trudeaus fault that it's expensive. It's all over the world caused by covid. He's not perfect... no one ever is but there's only so much he can do. He tries and I ll vote for him again
Which is great, it was a good step. We need housing and services to catch up to the level of immigration. But, a lot of the falls on the provinces. I think people will play the "tired of Trudeau" card, and play into the "after 8 years" bullshit.
The world took a shit in 2020 and had a negative effect on everything. It's a slow recovery. But, we are getting there. Rates are down. Economy is doing better. Jobs are good. Min wage is increasing. People are spending again, all to throw it away at the promise of saving a few bux on carbon taxe
Our literal only hope right now is what happens south of the border reflects on people's decisions, and not want to have that here. Unfortunate but the Liberal polling is horrible right now and not looking good at all. They have to hit hard, join forces with the NPD again, lie to us if you have to
Difference here is that people were spending and driving inflation up hence the change to interest rates. People don’t realize difference between economy, inflation and prices
Voters have been trying to get a bill passed that no party leaders should not hold a parliament seat without a high level security background check but it's falling on deaf ears with CSIS.
We need to wake them up and make them pay attention to the train wreck in the US as it happens. My nephew is my biggest project. I dread it but he’s not heard the last from me.
It’s worrying. I think a major obstacle is Trudeau at this stage. The negativity toward him is now fully baked in. Poilievre will win, not because people want him, it’s because they reject Trudeau
The objective is to get everyone out to vote. Ignore the msm and the polls. Facts: Our voter turn out is atrocious and the non Conservatives are divided between the Libs and the NDP. This is how the Cons take the W, on top of their usual shenanigans.
🇨🇦, we are all 1 vote away from make a change.
And voting strategically. No one wants to vote a party that's not their first go to however, to stop Pierre, that'll have to be the plan. I do it provincialy so we can try get SP out.
We have to show the people frustrated with Trudeau that NDP is the opposite of Liberal. Conservatives are not. We need to better educate our people on what the 3 parties are. Trudeau truly does suck, most are sick of him, but a shift to conservative is going the wrong way if you want change.
I'm not a Trudeau fan, but I will be voting for him. The conservatives are compromised and have a lot of the same problems we are seeing with US Republicans imo
I have been so involved with American politics the last eight years that I need to slow it down and concentrate on my own country now. I really don't know where to start?
We are a well loved country around the world and we certainly don't follow the US in making our own decisions for the better. We already have subsidized childcare, paid Healthcare and are one of the top countries to live well in and succeed.
That's because it's not a common term, but a joke that's been trending on twitter. It's not the first time it's been said though. I've heard it in stand up before, along with Ice backs.
Luckily we get to see how bad the right wing and their deportations will be for America, so we can use that to convince Canadians to vote against them.
Our education system is one of the best in the world. But that doesn’t mean critical thinking is taught. We score well in math and reading. It helps. A bit. But not quite enough.
Excellent question. The metrics are all based off of the ‘three Rs’, sadly. But, we do have a high literacy rate. Just, there’s just so much propaganda out there, and not enough done to insulate kids.
Overall education is better but that’s not saying much. There are too many people in Canada who don’t understand the division of responsibilities between federal and provincial governments.
We still need to fight everyday to ensure public education is funded adequately. Like everything else, e.g. universal healthcare, women/minority's health/rights, etc., nothing is ever set in stone. With the upsurge of fascism all over the world, we need to stay vigilant.
I know this is not going to resonate with anyone, but how about reeducating everyone on the three levels of Canadian government. Most people are being hurt by the policies of their provincial government -not the federal government. So upset about the bad state of health care? Provincial.
that'd be great, because one of the tactics the UCP uses is the Republican standby of 'the libs keep ruining things!' even tho the Republicans are in charge.
Remind Albertans especially the NDP was years and years ago now; they've been under UCP's iron damn thumb
We have skinny trump here in 🇨🇦, pierre poilievre and the Conservative Party of Canada. He plans to steal our CPP (pension plan) and destroy women’s rights, our PUBLIC healthcare and education system all while lying through his ugly mouth….we call his supporters Maple MAGA
Ohhhhh this is a good name for them x ugh we just got a left wing government here in the UK and it is only marginally better than the right wing one before...
.. sadly the russia/china psyop to turn americans against each other also affected Canadians as we consume much the same media .. if you noticed, they use American talking points which dont really apply & wear red hats even tho red is 'liberal' in Canada 😂
I am not sure I agree there is a Russian/China psyop to turn Americans against each other - do you think that is what is happening? I guess my view is different because I am over the pond?
I’m not sure if I’d point the finger directly at Russia and China but I wouldn’t be afraid to zero in on the IDU. Their entire purpose is for countries to help other countries get their far right🪽 parties elected.
…and I’m not sure how they’re doing that without foreign interference being in play.
It has truth to it. Major powers, or states that want to be major powers, are always doing masters of the universe type stuff. Best way I ever heard it described is that foreign relations is like a poker game where everyone is cheating. Interference in domestic affairs is just another card to play
I'm not sure what the plan is but the majority of Canadians have voter apathy and that will cause a Conservative win. We just saw what happens in the USA when people don't vote. The Centre & left have to VOTE. We also need to be vocal & counter the disinformation & lies
Quebec is the most anti-PP province in Canada by a large margin, which means he won't win much seats here. If he doesn't win Quebec, his chances of ever becoming PM are slim. We need to get the rest of Canada (excluding Alberta, 'cause, you know) to get onboard and vote Liberal or NDP.
They're in one way or the other. Trudeau has killed the liberals for a couple of election cycles. I doubt even a new leader could save them now. Leaves voters like me out in the cold. There's nothing to choose from. No center ground
PP is an IDU puppet. Wannabe Orban. Canadian media is controlled by right wing agenda. Not alot of critical coverage of his antics, hmmm I wonder where we have seen that.
I push back at family and friends that denigrate PMJT. I am basically in the "Eff them" mode.
We have an issue. We have to stop the people behind the mis and disinformation. That would be Pierre and his shady shadow government. How we do that is not by social media. Its by truth in journalism. How do we get TRUTH back in JOURNALISM??? How do we get reporters to report, not opine?
What can you really do? Most voters are uninformed and don't research things 🤷 the only real solution is flooding the media with actually good policies from the parties (like removing GST on stuff) on the off chance they see it
I don’t think there is one? At this point everyone planning to vote that way are so up their own ass they can’t or won’t listen to the fact that everything they’re mad about is a provincial issue. They’ve bought into slogans and Canadian media is complicit in their ignorance.
JT overstayed his welcome and is going to lead them into the wilderness for next few years. PP looks poised to win by folks voting against JT. It looks too late for a change in leadership to avoid a Kim Campbell moment. His ego got in the way of good leadership and doing what is right for country
Pp is a fascist 🇨🇦
Never liked politics but
Canada s Govt leads by Example
On the world stage
Calling for Peace in Gaza
Two state solutions etc
JT is being attacked by fascists
Pp is supported by them
Take it from a Canadian
We ain’t perfect
But we’ll make a humane try🙏
#Canada🍁
Agreed as far as PP goes.
But I can tell you that JT did more damage by staying last 2 years (than leaving and letting someone else chart a new course).
We came from a dark Covid mania
To being top economic investment
According to Bloomberg
Trudeau sent out Cerb emergency food money for all Canadians
When we shut down
Facts matter
#Canada🍁
Big shoes to fill sadly
In international circles🤔
My guess is JT will retire in 2029
And Wab Kinew shows excellent
Prospects
Many great Liberals…
Few could lead
#Canada🍁
Try to inform as many young men & boomers that PP is not good, refuses to get a security clearance & that JT has been doing a pretty good job for Canada compared to other countries
That’s a very good question. We initially thought a Trump defeat would be a wave washing over us - now we are worried. The PM can’t beat PP. so I gues. Holding him to a minority is our best hope?
I don’t think the Trump wave is going to wash over Canada. We are horrified by what’s going on in the US and still waiting for the foreign interference report to be released. When people hear how Russia, India and China helped the CPC Canadians will wake up to their corruption.
Poilievre is polling too well. And Trudeau has been slammed for so long, and not necessarily for all the wrong reasons. There’s too many racists, even in the NDP, who won’t vote for Singh.
It absolutely will. In the 2020 BC provincial election Conservatives got 1.91% of the vote. In 2024, they got 43.28%. BC. The most liberal province in the entire country. Not to mention that people have grown weary of Trudeau. If they don’t replace him the next PM will be Conservative.
I hope you are right.. but let’s not take that for granted. We are going to have to fight really hard the next federal election. Trudeau’s unpopularity isn’t helping our cause too much either, so we have a lot of work to do.
I guess I just don’t get this Trudeau unpopularity when Poilievre has offered Canadians nothing but his 3 word slogans. He can’t get security clearance, he supported the convoyers, he’s an embarrassment in the HOC, he disrespects the media especially women reporters, and he’s just creepy.
People just buy a narrative and jump on bandwagons. More often than not, they have no idea why they “hate” someone. It’s probably a lot of disinformation and propaganda. We also live in the age of stupid. But we can change that!!
As much as it sucks for those south of the border, one of our best chances may also be that things get SO bad in the US that it's plain following MAGA's path would be disastrous
Don’t take this for granted. And do not presume the other side is playing by the same rules. Fight with everything you’ve got, whether it follows your rules or not.
I’m not a defeatist. I’ll be damned if I’m going to lay down and let an extreme right wing party that has contributed nothing to Canada and for Canadians win. All the social programs we have is a result of the Liberals and NDP. All will be gone if CPC wins. I’m fighting for my grandchildren’s future
I understand I don’t like it. I am a realist. Everyone - I am in Ontario- hockey parents , work mates , school parents —- all put down Trudeau. Ontario is going to vote conservative.
The politicians are doing nothing to stop it. Same with ford— ndp and liberals should combine but they don’t care.
Melanie, first I want to say this is not an attack on your thinking. I used to say those things too. But the USA just taught us it IS possible. And PP lovers are totally unhinged and no longer subscribe to logic. Use your voice and your vote! And have uncomfortable conversations. Unapologetically.
Security clearance NOW. Or disqualification. What are you hiding PP?! Also, why are you campaigning when no election has been called? Perhaps to stir the Maple MAGA (ew) movement? Might have played his “Trump” card too early. One can only hope.
As a Canadian now living in Europe, I'm only seeing it from an outsider's point of view, but I wouldn't underestimate the right. We didn't think there was a change the orange bigot would win in 2016, and we didn't think he would this time either but here we are...
Agreed. We can't underestimate the average voters who get sucked into the propaganda about immigrants, inflation and taxes. I hear it every day. Same talking points as the US.
Elon is going to unleash his $$$ and his propaganda machine on Canada shortly. We have a mini Trump he's going to help.
I believe Canadians are better educated than Americans. I think Musk is now looked upon as a caricature and people are fleeing X so he won’t have the same influence. I also believe racism and misogyny played a big role in the US election. We have our fair share of RWNJ but I believe in Canadians.
Appreciate the optimism. I speak to a lot of people each week and the general tone is ppl are tired of JT and will vote for PP because of it. Then the 3 points I mentioned always come up. These aren't dumb people. Not necessarily the most informed, but they still vote. The PP slogans sink in.
And they have been influenced by Russian propaganda pushed by PP and the CPC. Poilievre has spent millions of $ campaigning on Trudeau is bad. I really believe people are getting tired of PP’s negativity and hate and Trump’s destruction of all that’s good in the US is going to be noticed in Canada.
What I’ve learned in the last 8 years is that there are plenty of gullible, low information Canadians who are unable to extrapolate the US situation to our country. The RW disinfo machine is pointed at Canada & many are oblivious - or welcoming it.
No PM is perfect in this country and he's not that bad. He tries at least to do his best. We hate trump and don't envy the US. We don't want to be compared with them.
How about as Canadians we demand @pierrepolievre.bsky.social get his security clearance before an election can be called. Let see if he can pass that. I want to know that my Prime Minister is not bought and paid for
Idk and I’m really nervous about MapleMAGA politics are heavily influencing the narrative rn. Especially the Alberta premiere Daniel Smith is full blown Tucker lover and Trump supporter. Ontario’s Ford is a dumbass and Legault’s party is xenophobic as hell.
No to MAGA ideology anytime & anywhere! MAGA means one group of people are better than other! And that group thinks: your body their choice, scientific discoveries and progress are hoaxes, and being aggressive is normal! Knowledge,kindness, caring,attention,&compassion all are values ignored by MAGA
So far, #MapleMAGA has convinced too many Canadians that the housing issues and healthcare issues they face are the federal gov's fault when it's actually the purview of their Provincial gov. Their leader also refuses to get a sec clearance to see things related to Russian interference in elections.
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"Russia approves law allowing use of crypto for global payments as it faces ongoing sanctions"
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/30/russia-considers-legalizing-crypto-as-a-form-of-payment-amid-sanctions.html
"Bitcoin is a Russian plot to destabilize the NA economy"
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/missrogue_bitcoin-is-a-russian-plot-to-destabilize-activity-6373372679575126016-Xbwz
you tell us
A. Having a red hat supports the Liberal Party colours.
B. Make America Great Again has no meaning for Canadians.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Democracy_Union
https://www.change.org/p/demand-pierre-poilievre-to-undergo-security-clearance-for-national-safety?signed=true
I think @JustinTrudeau and @theJagmeetSingh should form a non compete agreement in key ridings to prevent the vote splitting that helps the #cpc candidate.
I want them to form a coalition agreement and promote a new and hope filled plan for #Canadians #Trudeau is a great PM
A cooperation agreement makes those races more fair
My assumption isn't outlandish. People are generally rational in my experience.
And yes, most likely they would want to keep such agreements from the public view, but they all already do it with leaders ridings now.
And we made progress in several areas.
Could you please elaborate further?
We need to remind Canadians
The social programs they will lose under MAGA NORTH
We need average swing voters to pay attention and not get sucked in by the same propaganda the US had about immigrants stealing everything, inflation and BS promises from our Trump Lite candidate, Pierre Poilievere (Pee Pee). Dangerous.
Banking on higher IQ scores in Canada as well as heightened critical thinking skills.
If true… Pierre Poileivre has no fucking chance and thus the threat of Maple syrup Maga will dissipate.
🤷♂️
They are the heart of Canadian MAGA…
They are the Canadian Cambridge Analytica…
Any place you see Cambridge (Now fully operational under the name Emerdata the public sways to the right. Dark psychology + Internet = Trump supporters.
It will be America 2.0
#PierreIsAForeignAsset
PP will never be my Prime Minister.
That’s not what I want.
🇨🇦, we are all 1 vote away from make a change.
🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝
Some argue to vote for whoever you want. I would rather suck it up and have Liberals and NDP. At least then less taxe dollars to the wealthy.
Remind Albertans especially the NDP was years and years ago now; they've been under UCP's iron damn thumb
:)
https://globalnews.ca/video/10761115/freeland-says-wannabe-maga-maple-syrup-conservatives-dont-scare-her
…and I’m not sure how they’re doing that without foreign interference being in play.
Here is just one article, theres lots more
https://www.cbc.ca/news/investigates/russian-influence-election-tenet-media-chen-southern-1.7314976
This is why we need the CBC more than ever
#NeverVoteConservative
I push back at family and friends that denigrate PMJT. I am basically in the "Eff them" mode.
Never liked politics but
Canada s Govt leads by Example
On the world stage
Calling for Peace in Gaza
Two state solutions etc
JT is being attacked by fascists
Pp is supported by them
Take it from a Canadian
We ain’t perfect
But we’ll make a humane try🙏
#Canada🍁
But I can tell you that JT did more damage by staying last 2 years (than leaving and letting someone else chart a new course).
To being top economic investment
According to Bloomberg
Trudeau sent out Cerb emergency food money for all Canadians
When we shut down
Facts matter
#Canada🍁
In international circles🤔
My guess is JT will retire in 2029
And Wab Kinew shows excellent
Prospects
Many great Liberals…
Few could lead
#Canada🍁
You?
You can use these:
tell everybody !
The politicians are doing nothing to stop it. Same with ford— ndp and liberals should combine but they don’t care.
The polls are accurate and we should plan for that.
Elon is going to unleash his $$$ and his propaganda machine on Canada shortly. We have a mini Trump he's going to help.
Not much hope for turning the tide, I'm afraid.
Unless, perhaps, things south of the border derail in a spectacular fashion and we become wary.
🤞
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/canadian-support-for-donald-trump-higher-than-in-last-u-s-presidential-election-survey-finds-1.7074384
FYI everyone restoring parliament
Has passed security clearance
Every Stonemason/Carpenter etc🇨🇦🚨
Or Stephen Harper? All roads always seem to lead back to him and his IDU.
Fittingly, we also call them Cons.
Conservative MPs are all-in on #MapleMAGA. They lie openly now, about anything and everything.
Canadian media is MAGA-america controlled for the most part. They will not assist.
Incoming parody account. 🤔