Give me strength #NationalistStonehenge #StonehengeAnything @urbanprehistorian.bsky.social - ThreadSky

aliceponderland.bsky.social•30 days ago

Are you saying that these prehistoric communities might not have had the concept of Englishness?!

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danherb10.bsky.social•30 days ago

Absolutely that.

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aliceponderland.bsky.social•30 days ago

Perhaps his argument (or that of his nameless non celebrity team) is that they were very prescient and built Stonehenge in anticipation of the Angles rocking up

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danherb10.bsky.social•30 days ago

"Rocking Up"

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aliceponderland.bsky.social•30 days ago

If he can have that book cover, then I can say the Angles rocked up!

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danherb10.bsky.social•29 days ago

😄

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yrieithydd.bsky.social•29 days ago

What has Stonehenge got to do with the English? It predates them by a lot...

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brazen-guff.bsky.social•29 days ago

Stonehenge is nothing more than a bad theme park, yours a Moonraker currently in exile in Yorkshire.

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brazen-guff.bsky.social•29 days ago

And Dan Snow is a posturing nationalist mountebank masquerading as a historian.

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betterbert.bsky.social•29 days ago

Working on a Newsnight pitch that Dan Snow is actually the son of Jeremy Vine. The story has a Paula Yates angle, if it doesn't win awards there's no justice in this world.

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sherbety.bsky.social•29 days ago

Do you know, like, anything about Dan Snow?

Maybe check out his social media feeds before making that assertion.

‘Posturing nationalist’ is, I would suggest, very wide of the mark.

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brazen-guff.bsky.social•29 days ago

I am aware of Dan Snow's work and respectfully disagree.

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lornarichardson.bsky.social•29 days ago

I need to read this - hopefully the library has it. Might need anti-nausea tablets though

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martynjb.bsky.social•29 days ago

You can read a brief taster (?) on Am*zon - then you can choose in advance how you might want to self-medicate.

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lornarichardson.bsky.social•29 days ago

Courage, mon brave

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martynjb.bsky.social•29 days ago

"Customers who bought this item also purchased..."

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lornarichardson.bsky.social•29 days ago

Now that's actually a really interesting research angle - I wonder what other data would show up if you looked at what people bought on amazon and borrowed in libraries when they buy/borrow this sort of thing?

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johnnythin.bsky.social•29 days ago

The section on prehistory seems very anodyne but of course the unstated elision of England and Britain is deeply problematic - though to be fair Grahame Clark did the same 80 years ago in ‘Prehistoric England’

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sarahmay1.bsky.social•29 days ago

Oh fair enough, we can't expect understanding to have developed at all in the last 80 years. The publisher could have saved some money by republishing Clark in a shinier dustcover

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johnnythin.bsky.social•29 days ago

Clark’s dust cover (sadly absent from my copy) is much better than Snow’s!

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suegreaney.bsky.social•29 days ago

Aside from everything else, this new one has a pretty poor book cover design - shiny orange writing on an image that has orange colour makes it highly unreadable or accessible.

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thelondonwalker.bsky.social•29 days ago

Are there any other maps?

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jonathanmorris.bsky.social•29 days ago

Selling like hot cakes

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danherb10.bsky.social•29 days ago

Higher Education Geography! With that map!

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dfluke.net•29 days ago

"HistoryHit", like they're the team to call when you need a piece of history assassinated?

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littlemanbambam.bsky.social•29 days ago

Well if you can no longer colonise space then time colonisation is the only option. What do you expect them to do? Not colonise stuff?

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johnnythin.bsky.social•30 days ago

I think they missed out an S in the middle of historyhit

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martynjb.bsky.social•29 days ago

Just look at all those sites!

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aliceponderland.bsky.social•29 days ago

Bit harsh on Avebury

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lemoustier.bsky.social•29 days ago

Where did this image come from?

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martynjb.bsky.social•29 days ago

From the book the thread's about - Dan Snow's 'Story of England' - specifically the extract available to read on Am*zon

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osteoconnor.bsky.social•29 days ago

What a pity there has been no publicity at all about Must Farm, so nobody has heard of it.

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yorkhobbit.bsky.social•29 days ago

Why is Star Carr only a dot?

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martynjb.bsky.social•29 days ago

Cos it's only wet wood.

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yorkhobbit.bsky.social•29 days ago

😮Also antler headdresses.

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martynjb.bsky.social•29 days ago

To scare away damp wood thieves

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merryn02.bsky.social•29 days ago

Cresswell Crags looks strange. A very bad prehistoric map.

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rhapsodyangel.bsky.social•29 days ago

Eek. 😬

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danherb10.bsky.social•29 days ago

Those sites are huge. Is that map to scale?

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martynjb.bsky.social•29 days ago

Absolutely. 1 to eleventy-thurb.

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johnnythin.bsky.social•29 days ago

Stonehenge has crossed the ridgeway! And Boxgrove is literally a box?!!

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martynjb.bsky.social•29 days ago

Old Sarum appears to be a battered thumbail.

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ladyliminal.bsky.social•29 days ago

I didn’t realise that Stoney had relocated to the Cotswolds…

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martynjb.bsky.social•29 days ago

It's a very aspirational monument

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danherb10.bsky.social•29 days ago

😄

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ladyliminal.bsky.social•29 days ago

😂

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johnnythin.bsky.social•29 days ago

And there’s your story of England

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drtobydriver.bsky.social•29 days ago

A melting pot of 'prehistoric' sites there...🧐 Just missing Westminster Abbey

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martynjb.bsky.social•29 days ago

Looks dark in Wales

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drtobydriver.bsky.social•29 days ago

Sure there must be some prehistory here somewhere 🤔. I'll start looking...

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suegreaney.bsky.social•29 days ago

There be dragons

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thelondonwalker.bsky.social•29 days ago

And of course the ancient ice cream kiosks and tourist shops just outside, which date way back, pre Edward the Confessor, who thought it a good idea to build an abbey there due to the proximity of these shops

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tallahopper.bsky.social•29 days ago

Avebury is near Bath and to the south-west of Stonehenge? Who knew?

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coggers.bsky.social•29 days ago

Stonehenge nudged Avebury aside🤨

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tallahopper.bsky.social•29 days ago

Hmm! Upstart parish church doesn't hold a candle to Avebury cathedral. 😉

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sarahmay1.bsky.social•29 days ago

Bloody Hell! That's from a recently published book? Mind bogglingly bad

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jonathanmorris.bsky.social•29 days ago

All seems to be travelling in a lowest common denominator direction?

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sarahmay1.bsky.social•29 days ago

That is lower than the previous common denominator. I would expect better from a children's novel using a map to introduce the locations of the story.

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thelondonwalker.bsky.social•29 days ago

And poor Starcar is just a dot

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thelondonwalker.bsky.social•29 days ago

Creswell crags looks like it’s got a bunch of hoodies about to attack it

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