"you are deported if we have got the evidence, and you are also deported if we do not have evidence" - ThreadSky

davidallengreen.bsky.social • 30 days ago

"you are deported if we have got the evidence, and you are also deported if we do not have evidence"

Mind-bending logic: While many of the people we're deporting without due process don't have criminal records, that just proves how dangerous they are as unmonitored terrorists!

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jackbarrowuk.bsky.social•30 days ago

This is the logic of the ducking stool.

bruceandy.bsky.social•30 days ago

That is, objectively, nuts.

jspieve.bsky.social•30 days ago

This is the old conspiracy theorist argument: "the fact there is no evidence just shows deep the conspiracy goes"

dudlyboy.bsky.social•29 days ago

It's true. They may not be convicted like Trump but could still be criminals.

yamaking666.bsky.social•29 days ago

terryb72.bsky.social•30 days ago

Witch trials!

confusedpenguin.bsky.social•30 days ago

Make notes. Employ the same logic to deport the Dogebros, Holandsko et al to Siberia.

confusedpenguin.bsky.social•30 days ago

Err Homan

kenbar.bsky.social•30 days ago

The logic of the ducking stool.

carltspeak.bsky.social•30 days ago

'You've been Millered'.

raggyralph.bsky.social•30 days ago

Sounds a bit like a witch trial.

"You floated? Guilty!"

"You drowned? Innocent!"

mandascott.bsky.social•30 days ago

the old ducking test for women - if you survive, you're a witch, so we can burn you. If you drown, you probably weren't a witch, but not sure, so you drowned, so it's fine....

oatmaster.bsky.social•30 days ago

The really dangerous ones don't have a record because they never got caught.

labmatt.bsky.social•30 days ago

Trying to remember what they called the team / committee that was behind this during the Cold War. Was it Rand ?

Argh. Come on old brain.

The one that said that the absence of any evidence that the Russians had a thing was absolute evidence that they must have a more advanced hidden form.

davelencole.bsky.social•30 days ago

This is becoming really frightening.

politicsphil.bsky.social•30 days ago

Sounds like the logic of Matthew Hopkins to me.

janetanscombe.bsky.social•30 days ago

I think that's because it's precisely that logic. They're still in a Salem mindset and for that matter, still fighting the Civil War ~200 years later ... and now ~150 years ago!

davidallengreen.bsky.social•30 days ago

This is the full witness statement - the excerpt quoted above is at paragraph 9. Extraordinary stuff.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436.26.1_1.pdf

crusaderproject.bsky.social•30 days ago

Kafka is alive.

heyheyitssteve.bsky.social•30 days ago

“Your absence of a criminal record just shows how dangerous to society you are” is certainly one interpretation.

As a layperson, it seems like an utterly insane interpretation, mind you.

joannevarney.bsky.social•30 days ago

It’s the Witch Trials all over again. If you don’t drown you must be a witch and are then burned at the stake

alskicav.bsky.social•30 days ago

It's like Kafka, but without the trial

stephen1958.bsky.social•30 days ago

And…you’re not being ‘deported’ in fact, you’re being sent to a forced labour camp.

rsrd.bsky.social•30 days ago

The ducking stool of arguments.

consultingwriter.bsky.social•30 days ago

"The fact that you are being deported is evidence that you must be deported"

valoisdubins.bsky.social•30 days ago

What really scares me (for others’ sake) about this is that anyone seeking to maintain reasonable privacy from state monitoring is assumed guilty of something.

omnai.bsky.social•27 days ago

Terrifying . But of course that’s the intention

meandering12.bsky.social•30 days ago

“Those without a criminal record are simply criminals we haven’t caught yet.”

paulstenton.bsky.social•30 days ago

Or you are just left to rot in the system, without due process. And that's just allies citizens.

nigenet.uk•30 days ago

"There are no friends here. Just strangers we have yet to convict"

bluemonkeyslippers.bsky.social•30 days ago

If there's no evidence you're a terrorist, that just goes to show what a dangerous and sneaky terrorist you must be!

faoileanngrinmhar.bsky.social•30 days ago

Exactly! its genuis ,by not drawing attention to themselves by not commiting crimes they are able to hide themselves amongst law-abiding people!!

hungryhatter.bsky.social•30 days ago

This is the sort of text that I imagine has judges holding their heads in their hands and muttering "FFS" over and over again.

michaelroberts71.bsky.social•30 days ago

The Supreme Court gave a President freedom from prosecution for any decision made as President. The President is above the law and can order anything he likes. Biden should've immediately used that power to have Trump arrested and put in jail for the attempted coup. That was THE last chance.

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