ICE was created in 2003 with the help of mass marketing exploiting people's fears and prejudices, and with overwhelming support from both parties. A vocal minority predicted correctly that ICE would become an instrument of mass terror against all of us. Trans people are warning us similarly today. - ThreadSky

chadloder.bsky.social • 7 days ago

ICE was created in 2003 with the help of mass marketing exploiting people's fears and prejudices, and with overwhelming support from both parties.

A vocal minority predicted correctly that ICE would become an instrument of mass terror against all of us.

Trans people are warning us similarly today.

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misterianzajac.bsky.social•6 days ago

You know who else targeted immigrants and LGBT people but especially trans & genderqueer before anyone else?
Adolf fucking Hitler

ellinst.bsky.social•6 days ago

Forget ICE being created -- I knew when the Dept of Homeland Security was created where this would end up. The very term "Homeland" was an indication of an authoritarian/fascist direction of travel.

usurpedlettuce.bsky.social•6 days ago

I mean at that point you're just splitting hairs by months.

ellinst.bsky.social•6 days ago

Yes, but ICE hadn't actually been created yet and I didn't have a crystal ball. My point is that the DHS on its own is enough.

dell-adams.bsky.social•6 days ago

And the whole thing has to go.

amosnic.bsky.social•6 days ago

📌

uaschyperpolyglot.bsky.social•7 days ago

It's worth pre-empting certain libs who act like the INS was so much better and noting that mass deportations of random people were very much a thing with the INS. US immigration enforcement has always been violent, racist, and draconian. Due process in immigration proceedings has never existed.

chadloder.bsky.social•7 days ago

Democrats have convinced themselves that they've mastered this 5-D electoral chess strategy where they sacrifice small out-groups in the hopes of appealing to centrist voters.

Giving the government the authority to un-person any group of people always turns into a fascist nightmare for everyone.

fishinpants.bsky.social•6 days ago

It's kind of Overton window thinking. Except the centrist bell curve isn't there any more.

30% of voters have gone far right and don't believe in democracy unless they win.

And the Dems shuffle to the right and are confounded that it hasn't worked. Their model is broken, but they keep using it.

ellvee55.bsky.social•6 days ago

You mean the way they won the PE by providing full-on support to Israel at the insignificant cost of the anti-genocide minority?

itskristenpaul.bsky.social•7 days ago

They are not convinced. But like the labour party they have been taken over by people who despise the left even more than they despise fascism. They want to compete against the far right to keep the left in check. It is the strategy of their corporate funders.

dogontheroof.bsky.social•7 days ago

And then they end up driven by a moral sunk cost fallacy where they have to pretend being evil was smart and probably won them votes even when it loses them votes.

Because they don't mind being evil but they were hoping they were being clever and evil instead of stupid and evil.

irvingszoo.bsky.social•6 days ago

Democrats excel at finding creative ways to lose.

lildonnyb.bsky.social•6 days ago

Yep. It even costs them elections. They sent out Obama to lecture black men and Clinton to scold Arab Americans. Sistah Souljah was a disaster for that party. Clinton won because Perot, not because Clinton through black people under the bus.

scooterbones.bsky.social•6 days ago

Hmmm, that's probably true, but a skeleton with a Cajun accent keeps telling me otherwise

lildonnyb.bsky.social•6 days ago

I see the same one. It’s in purple and yellow striped shirts a lot.

thryse.com•7 days ago

There is every reason to believe the Democrats do know better and are simply evil.

nobody-2024.bsky.social•6 days ago

I think if you look at the stats the economy has worked better under Democratic presidential generally but they often lacked control in Congress to do more!!
Look at Obamas weakened Medicaid NOW GOING EXTINCT! 😳🙄

thryse.com•6 days ago

I grew up with one parent an abusive pathological narcissist and the other a codependent enabler.

Don’t ever expect me to defend the codependent enabler. They are evil.

nobody-2024.bsky.social•5 days ago

They as human beings is different to being Democrats!
Most humans are capable of evil things! Look at Project 25 and tRump, the paedophile supporting Clergy of the Catholic Church amongst many !!

https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/bigideas/sarah-churchwell-american-democracy-dark-enlightenment/105375606

thryse.com•5 days ago

Donald Trump was a Democrat. RFK Jr. was a Democrat. Elon Musk was a Democrat. Joe Biden is a Democrat. Chuck Schumer is a Democrat. Hillary Clinton is a Democrat. Nancy Pelosi is a Democrat. All monsters.

chadloder.bsky.social•7 days ago

You just have to draw a hard line when it comes to giving the government more power to create political death for any group of humans.

You don't even need to be a decent or kind person to figure this out, honestly. A modicum of self-preservation instinct should suffice.

pricklyeater.bsky.social•7 days ago

It SHOULD suffice, shouldn't it. It SHOULD be that basic.
Ignorance can be deadly.

I keep thinking about what Mahmoud Khalil said last night just after he was released. "No one is illegal. No human is illegal."

If you think someone can be illegal, you can be illegal, too.

chadloder.bsky.social•7 days ago

So many of these so-called debates about rights should really just boil down to "wait, why the fuck would I want the government involved in that kind of thing at all?"

These Reagan-brained Dems keep trying to meet the "We want to dominate and control every aspect of human existence" people halfway

houstonbrignano.bsky.social•7 days ago

Goes back way before Reagan.

Woodrow Wilson and his favorite book, Philip Drew Administrator.

nobody-2024.bsky.social•6 days ago

Even further back than that historically!
Have a listen to this Prof. of USA History in London give a brilliant development timeline of events that show how this situation in America developed:-

https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/bigideas/sarah-churchwell-american-democracy-dark-enlightenment/105375606

eves-on-fire.bsky.social•6 days ago

I just listened to this insanely sick "interview" with Sarah Saldaña, and she mentions being approached by NYT, Wapo, CNN, & Newsmax.

I expect we're going to get a lot of "bi-partisian" coverage about how good ICE is really, it's just this administration is bad.

https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburner/2025/06/a-conversation-with-a-former-director-of-ice/

dragynwing.bsky.social•7 days ago

Nancy Pelosi and Kamala Harris said "We're not going back" after Dobbs, not before it. These people will sacrifice anyone to serve themselves while telling us they're fighting.

ellentwright90.bsky.social•5 days ago

I don’t know who the frigging hell told you that, but it just ain’t so, CHAD. We have been trying for DECADES to get this coded into black letter law since right after birth control was legalized for women of all ages. That was in the 70s. Abortion and reproductive rights? Much longer than that. 1/

ellentwright90.bsky.social•5 days ago

You’ve been sleeping. Feminists have been campaigning hard for that to the point that a great many of the Right to Lifers will literally run when they see us coming. Get your facts straight. We WON’T GO BACK! And we have fought long and hard for what we got. 3/

ellentwright90.bsky.social•5 days ago

How DARE you put us down in our struggle? How DARE you? /fin

dashwallkick.bsky.social•7 days ago

This is why Israel is the most pressing issue today. You either believe there's people and non people who can be sacrificed for political expediency, or you recognize the suicide that is creating federal thugs to go after people the government doesn't like

infernatrixsophia.bsky.social•7 days ago

There's a reason being pro-Zionist makes you persona non grata in most trans spaces.

boogers.io•7 days ago

The key to building a strong coalition is to identify the most vulnerable component and excise it, and just keep on repeating that process until, oh shit we lost another election.

dogontheroof.bsky.social•7 days ago

If they throw away more voters next time maybe the billionaires will come back though!

50megatonfbomb.bsky.social•7 days ago

For the most part, they haven't done this, but there is a vocal minority within the party who wants to.

arthurzin.bsky.social•6 days ago

Perhaps if we fed a few establishment centrists into the fascist woodchipper, they would get the point.

ladylinds.bsky.social•7 days ago

I always point to this story from my area as the first time I personally knew of the horrors ICE inflicted. Hundreds of people were detained and their children were left at school and daycare. This was in 2007.

adelitamexicana.bsky.social•6 days ago

Thank you for continuing to spell it out for people. We need to abolish ICE completely. Burn it to the ground. 23 years of disappearing people. Chinga la migra

transmetropolitanr.bsky.social•7 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/transmetropolitanr.bsky.social/post/3ls2qqzmhys2m

mindfulnessweasel.bsky.social•6 days ago

#deportICE #abolishICE

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