And it gets even worse, when Trump steals Greenland and hands it to Putin as his gift, Europe will need to contemplate both east and west as Russian territories. Then Canada next to be taken by force.
We are heading to WW 3 quickly. Democratic Europe vs rest of world.
Two very different views on 2 sides of the ocean. This article doesn’t get to the basis of the matter sadly. It states: ‘Europe has underfunded its own defense for more than 30 years.’ Most Europeans don’t believe in war and a large army. Americans have flooded the planet with weapons for decades.
1/It may not believe in war, but it really ought to believe in defense in light of its war-torn history. The 20th century alone (WWI, WWII, Greek Civil War, Irish Civil War, Yugoslav Wars, etc.) should drive home the point. Europe is not beyond reproach. It suffered dearly from a complete lack of
2/military readiness that you’d be hard pressed to pin to the U.S.’s back - this from a pro-NATO European sympathizer residing in the bluest of blue states. With democracy here teetering on the brink, Europe best prepare, sorry. ✌️
The US have never won a war without allies, if one even can ‘win’ a war. Who remembers Vietnam? There is no continent that has more experience in warfare then Europe. War is won by money and having allies. With money one can buy allies. Temporarily.
And now they're going hundreds of billions of dollars because a lot of their buyers for the military weapons are not going to buy from them anymore they can't count on the US anymore they're there they have lose trust US military suppliers
The #EU will now produce all there own weapons. Several contracts are already cancelled. I know that the Titan class submarines of the US have been ‘downed’ several times by modern Dutch diesel submarines. I don’t think there will be war. Just hope we can spend the money on useful stuff…
It certainly is not just within our borders. The step away from Nato, the pro Putin push, the signal stupidity w direct lying to the American people, the attacks on law and order work to undermine the global democratic order. ALL MUST PUSH BACK. THIS IS A GLOBAL FIGHT!
The danger for Europe and the reason why it needs to strengthen its defense is not Russia. Europe already outspends Russia. No, the real danger is the US!
There's a real, overt and clearly articulated threat that the US will invade a fellow NATO state's territory. Possibly more than one. The unthinkable has become distinctly possible. No strategic planner has ever seriously considered such a "worst case scenario"...
Probably Greenland, it's practically defenseless, so an easy target for a bully.
'When asked what message he believed such a takeover would send to the rest of the world, including Russia, Mr. Trump said, “I don’t really think about that; I don’t really care.”'
All the limbos of the European empire are threatened today, whether it be the Ukrainian march and the Greenlandic annex today, the Norwegian confines and the Cypriot separation maybe tomorrow, by these other empires, with unbridled ardor, the Russian, American, Turkish, even Chinese empire...
A horrible consequence of the American administration using distributive bargaining strategies rather than integrative. I.E: "In a deal there's a winner and a loser" vs. "a rising tide raises all ships".
The U.S. was the driving force behind NATO’s expansion eastwards which has led to heightened tensions with Russia. It is cowardly and irresponsible if the U.S. now leaves the bill and the risk to Europe.
Americans stand with our European friends and allies, MAGA does not hold allegiance to anything but themselves. We are with you, and we are trying to take our country back from these fascists
"The U.S." hasn't changed its mind about Europe. A bozo who won the presidential election by less than 2% of voters & who has the support of a minority of Americans (& his sycophants) changed their minds about Europe. Trump may be our president, but he doesn't represent everyone's views.
Not only him. There’s a line of successors just like him who will continue his agenda. Vance is one of them. It’s up to the American people to decide which path they want to take.
True. My hope is that there isn't anyone else who will have that Charismatic Leader appeal & the movement will start to decay. Vance has the same agenda, but I don't think he has the same pull. Like, nobody thinks Vance is the 2nd coming of Christ AFAIK.
Once a regime is installed and has its hooks on all the leavers of power, it’s very difficult to dislodge, no matter who’s at its head. That why the time for Americans to act is now.
A third of the US voted for him. A third of the US is fine with killing blacks, women, minorities, Gazans, Iranians, Yemeni's, Afghans, and yes, Europeans. Anything that is not American. If the US hasn't changed its mind Europe sure got that wake-up call now.
Believe me, I'm beyond angry & horrified at the people who voted for him (& at the non-voters). My point is just that he doesn't have some vast mandate like he pretends he does & his approval rating is below 50%. We're very divided. Canada & Europe are right to treat us as adversaries now...
Oh they sure do and so does Canada and Greenland and Mexico and Panama and Venezuela and Guyana and Ukraine and Yemen and Palestine and and and and.... A former ally to many and now allied to the axis of evil. We recognize the danger - it is you who don't know how much you threaten.
America overestimates it power, clearly, it has lost so many wars and refuses to acknowledge it.
The rest of the world is tired of American aggression.
The annoying thing is that the US of fucking A set up NATO and non-proliferation pacts promising protection in exchange for a reduction in the global arsenal. And now Mr 4D chess reckons allies aren’t doing enough. And in Australia we’ve been kept as the 51st state for decades. Now we’re unprepared!
Anyway it is time for Europe to step up and take responsibility. And of course pay up for defence. It will take time until European forces can replace USA. And nuclear even longer.
What PP O'Brien fails to understand is the number of enemies the USA has made overnight.
Russia is your ally now. A country on the brink of bankruptcy. A country with a GDP the size of Italy. A country where a majority of the population doesn't have running water or toilets.
Have fun.
Please note this not what Americans want! Many Americans support Europe and other countries the convicted felon is not who speaks for all of Americans.
Stand strong Europe, Canada, Greenland, Panama and Ukraine! 🇺🇦 I’m embarrassed by tyrant that loves Putin!
I think a lot of us do, but it takes time to turn «the ships» around.
My straw of hope is that a negative reaction in the stock market can make the simple logic in trumps head to change his path. A good stock market is important to him and his friends.
Until the people topple the MAGA pro-Putin regime or develop a separate foreign policy, it makes no practical difference. I know many Americans feel your way, but European countries must deal with political realities and strategic decisions, not sentiment.
The prob with a headline like this is; it's our govt that is dangerous. Not the people who live here, go to work everyday, worry abt feeding their children & the price of milk. To spread hate a grp of ppl becuz their govt is wrong; it's wrong, every time. I fear Netanyahu,I love the ppl of Israel. 🇺🇸
On the contrary; Europe’s democracies recognise it all to well, having witnessed it first hand, back in 1939. The one advantage Europe has is in knowing how it all plays out & by not making the mistake of appeasement again.
Oh yes we as Europeans do realize the danger that lies in an America being governed straight out of a Russian mental asylum. Americans on the other hand don’t seem to notice the danger before them, given the lack of a real resistance.
Me too. I do follow quite some American artists on IG that MAGA would consider woke or even leftist, but besides occasionally mentioning Gaza there has not been a single political post about the current events from these people. 🤷🏻♂️
When are Americans going to realize Trump just gave away what made America wealth after WW11, the “military industrial complex “. Trump as created a paradigm shift in geopolitics there is no going backwards.
@theatlantic.com the US has not changed its mind about Europe. Donald Trump has an odd view. Most Americans still believe the US wants European Allies.
We know that everything has already changed. It feels like being at war with the US. We Europeans will spend billions on weapons to be strong enough against our new enemies from the west (and the east).
ANYONE that doesn’t agree with or follow our current administration’s ideology is now considered a threat, because democracy means freedom, and that’s the last thing they want for us!
We were here far before the US of A, and we will still be here tomorrow! We know how to adapt! And even with little... That's called intelligence! Intelligence is the way to adapt oneself to one's surroundings... And not to adapt one's surroundings to oneself! Our biggest difference with the US!!
Strange tone to the article - I think Europeans fully understand what it will take to going alonw without the US. Plus this nonsense about Europe freeloading is an American trope - Europe was a client continent of yhe US and was discouraged from developing any strategic capabilities that might
Since Oct 2023, the U.S. has provided at least $18 billion in military aid to Israel and has spent a further $5 billion on military operations across the Middle East.
These operations cause population displacement and refugee problems for Europe.
challenge US hegemony. So space, air nuclear and intelligence were all reserved jealously by the US - they went bananas when the Eu tried to launch its own GPS satellite system -hence it made no sense to overspend coz all that meant was “buy more American stuff” _ that’s all it was. That’s now over
Just like they did with Canada. I'm glad we can start making our own advances in technology and defense again, and the EU too. We'll be better off without them 🙂
Exactly! The French alone insisted on strategic independence. It created an almighty row at the time and the US came close to calling France traitorous. When Britain tried to go it alone in 1956, the US sabotaged it. The US had also sold half of Europe to the Soviet Union at Yalta and Potsdam.
The UK seems to be going the way of Trump 2.0. Towards destabilizing corruption.
-alarming financial deregulations
-Starmer cozying up to BRICS
-growing wealth disparity
-increase in social programs cuts
-increase of Russian-based cyber attacks upon elections systems
-Social media disinformation
Brexit was certainly a successful Kremlin-aided operation.
But Starmer is edging closer to Europe again. He’s been 9 months in power only and inherited a shocking mess.
If Starmer does want to rejoin the EU, the EU should, however, require that the UK cleanup its illicit banking networks before joining, for the UK's deregulation of corporations and banks is counterintuitive to global democratic progress. In the US, Trump is a symptom of this unchecked corruption.
I don’t think rejoining the EU is on the cards yet (alas) - it’s a slow edging towards (don’t want to spook the Reform gang), but I agree about the banking. The UK is in a delicate position. I’m glad he’s clear about Ukraine and European defence.
#This concedes all American #USA ideals to #DJT and I say #HellNO America has not changed its mind - we are under duress in a hostile takeover by a #putin goon.
Yes, we do recognise it. What to do about it is another matter. Or do you think a complex, war-prone region like ours, made up of 30+ countries, with a political and social culture that goes back 2500 years, is going to agree overnight what to do about our most important ally “changing its mind”?
The US hasn’t. But yes, the man unqualified to serve by our Constitution and who is also a convicted felon, a guilty rapist, liar, and tax cheat is pushing our Allies away as he snuggles up with the dictators.
The US has not changed our minds about Europe.
Trump has inflicted HIS thoughts about Russia upon the US.
This is not a policy WE, the people, have chosen.
How? I'm really open to ideas. We're already telling Democratic politicians to step up & oppose. Some are, most aren't. We're telling Republicans this isn't what we wanted. We're protesting. We're filing lawsuits. What are we missing short of violence?
There's a reason the French shut down their country at times. They know what it means to be under autocratic heels. There's a reason they are going after the unions.
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We are heading to WW 3 quickly. Democratic Europe vs rest of world.
Putin wants Greenland. Trump is doing his dirty work.
https://bsky.app/profile/velvetundergrd.bsky.social/post/3lljco5sujs2l
'When asked what message he believed such a takeover would send to the rest of the world, including Russia, Mr. Trump said, “I don’t really think about that; I don’t really care.”'
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/29/us/politics/trump-signal-waltz-tariffs.html
AMERICA, under TRAITOR tRUMP, CANNOT BE TRUSTED.
AMERICA, under TRAITOR tRUMP, CANNOT BE TRUSTED.
EUROPE is in CLEAR and PRESENT DANGER.
TRAITOR tRUmp WORKS FOR putin.
PERIOD.
The rest of the world is tired of American aggression.
But NATO was set up by people who had no idea what the USA was going to turn into.
Or that Hungary would join but then support Russia.
Russia is your ally now. A country on the brink of bankruptcy. A country with a GDP the size of Italy. A country where a majority of the population doesn't have running water or toilets.
Have fun.
Stand strong Europe, Canada, Greenland, Panama and Ukraine! 🇺🇦 I’m embarrassed by tyrant that loves Putin!
My straw of hope is that a negative reaction in the stock market can make the simple logic in trumps head to change his path. A good stock market is important to him and his friends.
We will fight this piece of shit for as long as there are bodies to fight.
And if Putin and China come knocking we’ll fight them too.
Stop buying expensive, inferior weapons "Made in USA" for trillions of dollars to uphold an alliance that the 🍊 killed
Europe needs to redirect all those trillions to Europe and true allies
Give back our $
Since Oct 2023, the U.S. has provided at least $18 billion in military aid to Israel and has spent a further $5 billion on military operations across the Middle East.
These operations cause population displacement and refugee problems for Europe.
-alarming financial deregulations
-Starmer cozying up to BRICS
-growing wealth disparity
-increase in social programs cuts
-increase of Russian-based cyber attacks upon elections systems
-Social media disinformation
But Starmer is edging closer to Europe again. He’s been 9 months in power only and inherited a shocking mess.
Trump has inflicted HIS thoughts about Russia upon the US.
This is not a policy WE, the people, have chosen.
40% DID NOT VOTE. Makes you wonder : what could have been.
You don't have until the next election. Especially since y'all were so fucking lazy and stupid you elected Nazis.
And don't tell me it wasn't your. It doesn't matter. It's your problem.
Fix it.